Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:19:30 +1000 From: "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au> To: "Mike" <mike@sixpak.net>, "Y" <ure@home.com>, <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Re[2]: AMD Duron Message-ID: <00c901c08582$2e2e68d0$837e03cb@dougy> References: <005b01c084e7$051ccfe0$844285ca@client1> <3A6D9AD0.A408B578@home.com> <002c01c0852a$1d0a5170$837e03cb@dougy> <921331965.20010123031256@home.com> <007501c0857b$30785d00$837e03cb@dougy> <011801c08580$8cd74480$020aa8c0@sixpak.net>
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A bad half dozen motherboards & only with AMD ?? ..... while its possible I very much doubt it, especially since the problems with the socket 7 ones disappeared immediately the CPU was replaced with an Intel one. If others wish to use those things then its their funeral .... I certainly won't use one in a clients box & I won't have an AMD in any system I control again ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <mike@sixpak.net> To: "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>; "Y" <ure@home.com>; <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:07 AM Subject: Re: Re[2]: AMD Duron > I have to disagree with Doug here. I've had experience with two different > AMD CPUs directly and have built servers using them for customers for the > past six months. NONE of these servers have had any type of problem for any > reason. My current Linux server for home use has been operating flawlessly > for over six months (I had to boot it due to a power outage almost three > months ago that lasted longer than my UPS). This server runs a variety of > services so the processor is definently running (although I'm sure rarely at > 100% unless I'm compiling something) all the time. > > The other AMD processer was an old 200MHz that's been running and operating > for about four years. > > I just purchased a 1GHz AMD processor for a windows box and I'm proud to say > that Windows hasn't crashed any more often than it did with my 450MHz Intel > processor. > > I think Doug just got a bad CPU for whatever reason or a bad motherboard. > It happens. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au> > To: "Y" <ure@home.com>; <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:29 PM > Subject: Re: Re[2]: AMD Duron > > > > Various problems, generally of the "tearing hair out" variety ..... > > spontaneous reboots are common with WinNT, as are really stupid > installation > > "features" with Win2000 (gets started normally then "loses" the (IDE) CD > > drive. I've had no end of weird hardware conflicts with both WinNT & > Win2000 > > that can never be properly resolved, & the uncertain lifetime of the CPU > is > > a concern (they don't appear to have anything like the life of Intel ones) > I > > can't imagine overclocking the things ... they don't last much more than a > > year in standard form anyway !!!! (and YES the ones I've tried all had > > heatsink paste / bigger fans / blah / blah / blah) > > > > Actually we DID have an AMD in a FreeBSD box used as a news server ...... > > well it was built & commissioned but it never did work for longer than a > day > > before crashing. Every component of the system was replaced (several times > > over / various breeds) without making the slightest difference. It was > only > > when the CPU was replaced by a proper Intel that the problems disappeared. > > Since then we'll never have another of those disasters in the place ... > none > > of the Intel sytems have given unusual hardware problems like those > > experienced with the AMD one. > > > > The problems I've had are mostly "off topic" for this list as they don't > > concern FreeBSD directly, however a number of enquiries talk about dual > > booting so thats why I reported my experiences. Given the apparently > > "features" of AMD that I've seen with other operating systems I can't see > > the point in using them in FreeBSD. Judging from the email addresses of > > those who swear AMD chips are the bees knees, they are probably mostly > > gameplayers. As I said in an earlier posting I have no interest whatever > in > > that area ..... however I'll need to be convinced that AMD have lifted > their > > game considerably before I'll use another one in a business environment. > > > > > > > on a net i administer we have two small offices as parts of a > > > MAN that we run on Durons plus one TBird MS SQL 7 server > > > machine on MSI and DFI boards. 38 NT 4 workstations and one > > > server: no AMD specific problems whatsoever. this home machine > > > is also Duron 600(512 RAM) running FreeBSD, Linux and W2k Pro > the > > only > > > problems i noticed with Win are the same we have with Pentiums > > > as well. What troubles do you experience with AMD ? I am > > > asking, because we are contemplating to lay a few larger LANs > > > out using it. > > > > > > TIA > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > Y > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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