Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:09:05 -0700 From: Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com>, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>, Joshua Lee <yid@softhome.net>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <200209122009.g8CK9A159682@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org>
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Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> writes: > Dave Hayes wrote: >> Neal E Westfall <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> writes: >> > I'll reiterate mine again: It's unreasonable to adopt a subset of >> > assumptions that are the preconditions of intelligibility. 8-) >> >> Very well put, and this is one of Mr. Lambert's biggest foibles >> as evident by most of the discussions. > > Dave, the person who can predictively describe the universe as > a derivation of the least number of assumptions wins. Wins what? > Each assumption is a "deux ex machina", which you will not be > able to logically communicate to another person. This is also an assumption. > You can only logically communicate information based on your set of > shared assumptions, or shared principles derived from those > assumptions, which fortuitously coincide. I don't agree that this is true, by my own observation. I continually manage to communicate information devoid of logic, berift of derivation, which has no real shared principle other than a set of agreed upon frequencies to use as raw materials. I play music. > This is the point you miss over and over again: it's possible > for an individual and the larger homogeneous society to have > irreconcilable differences, which may include continued > tolerance of each others existance. Big words and lofty notions of knowledge aside, this is really a simple matter. All I've ever asked is for people to show a little maturity when dealing with obvious trolls. Why does this incite a two-week+ thread which delves into PhD level mathematics? You go on and on about "prove this" or "demonstrate that" or even "the best answers are simple". But you never ever answer this original, simple, thought. ------ Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<< Penitent (adj.) - 1. Someone who has been made incapable of enjoyment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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