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Date:      Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:23:39 -0700
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        Barry Pederson <bpederson@geocities.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Promise-66 RAID 
Message-ID:  <200007262123.OAA39669@mass.osd.bsdi.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:50:21 CDT." <397F4F0D.82ECEADE@geocities.com> 

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> > If you want a supported ATA RAID solution, see www.3ware.com.
> 
> I'm curious how well the 3ware cards work under FreeBSD feature-wise? Can you
> hot-swap drives (assuming you have an IDE hot-swap frame and cartridge like
> Promise cards support)?  

The 6x00 series cards support hotswap.  You need to reboot with the 5x00 
cards.  Note that ATA has no out-of-band swap notification, so working 
out whether a new disk has been inserted is an iffy proposition at best.

> Can a broken mirror be rebuilt on-the-fly while
> FreeBSD is running? or do you have to run some sort of BIOS or DOS utility to
> get things going again?

With the 5x00 adapters you need to reboot and handhold the BIOS.  The 
sample I have has bad firmware, and doesn't do this right, but they've 
just posted a firmware upgrade that is meant to resolve this, as well as 
adding support for RAID10 (mirrored stripes - go-faster stuff).

The 6x00 adapters are meant to resolve all this; I'll have one next week 
and will be adding support ASAP.  

Note that you can't do *any* of this with ccd or Vinum (apart from the 
online rebuild), and you can't get a reliable boot volume without a 
BIOS-level solution.  I'd love to see Vinum understand the Promise config 
information, for example.

-- 
... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his
rivals and unfortunately opponents also.  But not because people want
to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force
people to take different points of view.  [Dr. Fritz Todt]




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