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Date:      Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:20:34 +0200
From:      Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        Jung-uk Kim <jkim@freebsd.org>
Cc:        davidxu@freebsd.org, freebsd-threads@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [RFC] Implement pthread_getthreadid_np(3) and pthread_getunique_np(3)
Message-ID:  <20110207202034.GS78089@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
In-Reply-To: <201102071331.54198.jkim@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201102041409.12314.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201102050224.23377.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <20110205095810.GW78089@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <201102071331.54198.jkim@FreeBSD.org>

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On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 01:31:42PM -0500, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
> On Saturday 05 February 2011 04:58 am, Kostik Belousov wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 02:24:09AM -0500, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
> > > On Friday 04 February 2011 04:33 pm, Kostik Belousov wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 02:09:10PM -0500, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
> > > > > Our pthread_t is not an integral type and it causes a lot of
> > > > > trouble porting some software, which relies on Linux's
> > > > > gettid() or similar syscalls:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/online/pages/man2/gettid.
> > > > >2.ht ml
> > > > >
> > > > > For example:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?201102032111.13479.jkim
> > > > >
> > > > > To solve this problem, I implemented two functions:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/thr_tid.diff
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically, they are AIX's pthread_getthreadid_np(3) and
> > > > > pthread_getunique_np(3) look-alikes:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r4/topic/a
> > > > >pis/ users_22.htm
> > > > > http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r4/topic/a
> > > > >pis/ users_23.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Please let me know what you think.
> > > >
> > > > Why do you need new functions available in stubs ?
> > >
> > > Oops, my bad.  Fixed:
> > >
> > > http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/thr_tid2.diff
> > >
> > > > Also, would it be better to return proper id even if threading
> > > > is not initialized, instead of EINVAL  ?
> > >
> > > Because I want it to be fast and cause no side-effect, no.
> >
> > You can allocate static lwpid_t self_tid variable, and in case
> > threading is not initialized yet, and self_tid =3D=3D 0, do
> > self_tid =3D thr_self(). Otherwise, if threading is initialized and
> > self_tid !=3D 0, return self_tid.
> >
> > BTW, what should be the behaviour of new functions after fork() ?
> > Is it undefined ?
>=20
> Please ignore this RFC.  I found (undocumented) thr_self(2) works just=20
> like pthread_getthreadid_np(3) and I don't have immediate need for=20
> pthread_getunique_np(3).
I think that making thr_* private libthr syscalls part of the
public namespace was unfortunate. If you need the functionality of
pthread_getthreadid_np(3), then please introduce it, as discussed above,
and use.

We already have somewhat sad experience with kse, when static binaries
where broken. Using thr_self() directly in such important application
as jdk/jre might cause similar problem in future (I hope not).

Also, you said that pthread_getthreadid_np(3) was taken from AIX, am I
remember right ? This is additional argument for use it instead of
single-implementation interface.

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