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Date:      Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:35:04 -0700 (MST)
From:      Fred Clift <fclift@verio.net>
To:        <alpha@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Fred Clift <fclift@verio.net>
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP, floppy installs desupported for 5.0
Message-ID:  <20021101152711.V7968-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net>
In-Reply-To: <20021101222411.GA11787@dragon.nuxi.com>

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On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, David O'Brien wrote:

>
> One shouldn't have to use a temp hard drive.  You should be able to 'dd'
> the install image onto your destination hard drive and then once the
> installation is started, install for real on that same hard drive.

for a new install, I guess this would be ok... where would you be storing
this though?  I mean, to dd it there, I have to have 'if=/foo/bar/blah'.
You would still either 1) have to have a second disk to hold it, or have a
special boot-strap kernel that has no network/whatever-else options, has
only disk and cd drivers to get it off of cd, or perhaps if you're
creative you oculd read in via the serial port from another computer.  If
I already had an os there, I could just boot that and dd to the raw
device, and then reboot, but how about empty disks?

> > Are there other, (though perhaps painful) options?  I'm somewhat concerned
> > that I'm going to have to open up my box and put a hard disk in it just to
> > do an install...
>
> That is the live of commercial Unix installs for quite some time.

Most of the 'commercial unix' I install (generally i386/FreeBSD) are all
done via netboot -- and I guess this will work for alpha too.  Come to
think of it, when I had to touch HP-UX, cd boots and network installs were
all I ever did - ditto for solaris/i386.  Well, shrug -- seems a shame :).

Fred


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