Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 13:48:23 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer vs RedHat Linux Fedora Core Installer? Message-ID: <459C24A7.7030808@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <459C1F22.5070301@bobmc.net> References: <ad32ec270701031142j7ed4a6dbr4690189d9f8ece3@mail.gmail.com> <20070103151318.92e9b0c2.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <459C1F22.5070301@bobmc.net>
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 bobmc wrote: > Bill Moran wrote: > > In response to "Peter aka SweetPete" [1]<swtpete@gmail.com>: > > > > Hello, I used to be on this mailing list several years ago, and have > recently rejoined. > > [2]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-sysinstall.h > tml > [3]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/main1.png > > vs. > > [4]http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/install-guide/fc6/en/ch-beginninginstallation. > html#sn-booting-from-disc > [5]http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/install-guide/fc6/en/figs/bootprompt.png > > Could I begin a thread (now) about a comparison (and relatively > inferiorness) of the following two installers please?? I WOULD run > FreeBSD at home instead of Fedora if the installer were more .....erm, > """Microsoftly.""" > > Do you among the developer circle hear this kind of thing from time to time? > > > This seems to come up over and over again. About every other month. > > The developers are aware of it. The general consensus is that "yes, our > installer could be nicer/prettier/easier/etc" > > However, until someone either takes the time to write a better one, or > foots some cash to get a better one written, or blackmails a developer > in to doing it or something else, we still have what we have. > > I think the biggest problem is that the installer is "good enough" -- so > nobody is particularly interested in rewriting it until it's not good > enough any more -- even though it could be better. > > > > Coincidently, issue 68 of linuxuser.co.uk has a positive review of > Fedora 6. > But Cons: "Anacoda installer is clumsy and poorly designed, due for a > major overhaul". (in the reviewer's opinion). It looks fine to me? > I like Mepis Linux for it's superior usability and attention to > detail. But in > FreeBSD I am looking for a lightweight efficient OS that can run a > media > management system (TBD) on a low-power Mini-ITX computer. > IMO, iterative and incremental developement in the FOSS way is more > effective than paradigm shift. Therefore, the existing sysinstall > program > can be improved by setting up a mini-project to do just that. > I am sure there are plenty of ideas to improve usability. How about > replacing most of these sequential dialogues with tabbed panels where > you > can check settings in any order? -Bob- > > References > > 1. mailto:swtpete@gmail.com > 2. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-sysinstall.html > 3. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/main1.png > 4. http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/install-guide/fc6/en/ch-beginninginstallation.html#sn-booting-from-disc > 5. http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/install-guide/fc6/en/figs/bootprompt.png Rather than saying "Blah installer" is better than FreeBSD installer, could you provide specific examples of where and how it could be better? My only complaint with the installer deals with the binary repository when downloading/fetching binaries for the first time from behind a NAT (Netgear router); many times the installer fails after a period of time due to a checksum or extraction error. However, my complaints may not coincide with other's complaints. Also, an interesting thing is that sysinstall required (at least in my case) a clean filesystem / partition tables every time I tried to install. Whenever I installed with a partially or complete filesystem, sysinstall would die every single time when installing when fetching / extracting sources. - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFnCSnEnKyINQw/HARAls3AJ0QlkpxGpLzumVOaFglRUJTCtFaPwCeN4ih mg04mmonQXAC5mJf1u8TfA4= =q5Fa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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