Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 17:48:11 -0500 From: Brandon Allbery <allbery.b@gmail.com> To: Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp> Cc: Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net>, Sulev-Madis Silber <freebsd-current-freebsd-org111@ketas.si.pri.ee>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/src and /usr/ports not git directories ? Message-ID: <CAKFCL4XvGKFufJ4_0pPWj2OSuNPfKd7tpb-4LxSRfuMUnXoSeg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20250122074309.9062de69d8403c68a11cd79a@dec.sakura.ne.jp> References: <Z4vk3009iSwuzG4K@www.zefox.net> <Z4__B0EQM-ce0qPE@cell.glebi.us> <C509F94C-2AC2-414F-90C0-355C69869D72@ketas.si.pri.ee> <Z5AQ1GcwX_MZw69G@www.zefox.net> <CANCZdfoHUsZusqMg_gWN5mB9P3xByGv_GfELi9Dd63CHto1igw@mail.gmail.com> <CAFYkXjk7PPHNiTJftGo980DABOO0t-rK9t%2BoPnLY-5n%2B1qjEAg@mail.gmail.com> <CAKFCL4XCijAsNJJw%2Bx_K%2B0M5VAebXLLWKoT%2BECT6J4wwVFNfCQ@mail.gmail.com> <20250122074309.9062de69d8403c68a11cd79a@dec.sakura.ne.jp>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] Yes, the pkg was 1.9.16p2, the build from ports.tgz was 1.9.16p1. (The one from ports HEAD as of a few days ago was 1.9.16p2_1, FWIW.) I'm still getting used to the little changes since the last time I ran FreeBSD (back around 5-CURRENT). On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 5:43 PM Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp> wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 17:11:02 -0500 > Brandon Allbery <allbery.b@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I would offer a data point: the first thing I did was install sudo from a > > package. The second thing I did was replace it with a build from the > ports > > package installed with 14.2-RELEASE… which _downgraded_ it. This seems > bad > > for any security-impacting port. > > Do you mean that you install sudo from official "latest" repo, then, > `make package` in security/sudo with ports tree provided as ports.txz > in installation media? > > If so, it could be latest/quarterly issue. > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 4:37 PM Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:29 PM Warner Losh wrote: > > > > (..) > > > > I think we should replace the populate /usr/src from a tarball > with.... > > > populate it > > > > with a tarball that represents a 1-deep checkout tree at the rev we > > > built the release > > > > from. This lets users have the source, has minimal overhead and also > > > lets users update > > > > or turn the shallow checkout into a deep one, etc. A shallow > checkout is > > > quite a bit > > > > less than a full tree, though still more than just the raw files. > I've > > > not done poking to > > > > see size comparisons. > > > > > > Still having tarball of src and ports snapshots in the full release > > > images is important to have, users could select which one they want to > > > use, that seems best solution :-) > > > > > > -- > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > > > > > > > > > > -- > > brandon s allbery kf8nh > > allbery.b@gmail.com > > > -- > Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp> > -- brandon s allbery kf8nh allbery.b@gmail.com [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="ltr">Yes, the pkg was 1.9.16p2, the build from ports.tgz was 1.9.16p1. (The one from ports HEAD as of a few days ago was 1.9.16p2_1, FWIW.) I'm still getting used to the little changes since the last time I ran FreeBSD (back around 5-CURRENT).</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 5:43 PM Tomoaki AOKI <<a href="mailto:junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp">junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 17:11:02 -0500<br> Brandon Allbery <<a href="mailto:allbery.b@gmail.com" target="_blank">allbery.b@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > I would offer a data point: the first thing I did was install sudo from a<br> > package. The second thing I did was replace it with a build from the ports<br> > package installed with 14.2-RELEASE… which _downgraded_ it. This seems bad<br> > for any security-impacting port.<br> <br> Do you mean that you install sudo from official "latest" repo, then,<br> `make package` in security/sudo with ports tree provided as ports.txz<br> in installation media?<br> <br> If so, it could be latest/quarterly issue.<br> <br> <br> > <br> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 4:37 PM Tomek CEDRO <<a href="mailto:tomek@cedro.info" target="_blank">tomek@cedro.info</a>> wrote:<br> > <br> > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:29 PM Warner Losh wrote:<br> > > > (..)<br> > > > I think we should replace the populate /usr/src from a tarball with....<br> > > populate it<br> > > > with a tarball that represents a 1-deep checkout tree at the rev we<br> > > built the release<br> > > > from. This lets users have the source, has minimal overhead and also<br> > > lets users update<br> > > > or turn the shallow checkout into a deep one, etc. A shallow checkout is<br> > > quite a bit<br> > > > less than a full tree, though still more than just the raw files. I've<br> > > not done poking to<br> > > > see size comparisons.<br> > ><br> > > Still having tarball of src and ports snapshots in the full release<br> > > images is important to have, users could select which one they want to<br> > > use, that seems best solution :-)<br> > ><br> > > --<br> > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, <a href="http://www.tomek.cedro.info" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.tomek.cedro.info</a><br>; > ><br> > ><br> > <br> > -- <br> > brandon s allbery kf8nh<br> > <a href="mailto:allbery.b@gmail.com" target="_blank">allbery.b@gmail.com</a><br> <br> <br> -- <br> Tomoaki AOKI <<a href="mailto:junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp" target="_blank">junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp</a>><br> </blockquote></div><div><br clear="all"></div><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>brandon s allbery kf8nh</div><div><a href="mailto:allbery.b@gmail.com" target="_blank">allbery.b@gmail.com</a></div></div></div></div></div>help
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