Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:13:02 +0800 From: "Adrian Chadd" <adrian@freebsd.org> To: "Bill Moran" <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Communicating with the public (was Re: Possibility for FreeBSD 4.11 Extended Support) Message-ID: <d763ac660612220513u3a8fd32fxd60f52ecf03fec23@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20061222072905.75f2c9d2.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> References: <000801c723bb$efc2b540$260ba8c0@wii.wintecind.com> <458A2B14.5070009@freebsd.org> <458A97BF.1090503@ant.uni-bremen.de> <20061221095811.886d9850.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <200612220259.kBM2xYxc019408@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <20061222051513.GK63341@manor.msen.com> <20061222082639.GC837@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <nospam-1166783799.93169@iliad.gbch.net> <d763ac660612220242o3c246929r1488b86cb0d8c91@mail.gmail.com> <20061222072905.75f2c9d2.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
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On 22/12/06, Bill Moran <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> wrote: > I could be wrong, but I get the impression that this whole EOL issue with > 4.x is partly a result of not reminding people when the EOL date for 4.x > is every 5 minutes. The result is that it's just hitting home for a lot > of people now that it's the 11th hour. The trouble Squid had was its push to a new codebase (2.5 -> 3.0) without adequately considering what users wanted. After all, if users don't get any of what they want then there's probably no chance of any paid work out of it.. Users cried for new features but with the stability of the existing codebase. In the end the developers caved and provided Squid-2.6 which seems to have begun reinvigorating the project somewhat. I'm not saying thats the case here, but all the people I've seen complain about 4.11 isn't because the upgrade path isn't -there-, its because the upgrade path doesn't give them stability. People then answer "but its stable for mee!"; both sides don't end up agreeing. tsk .:) adrian
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