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Date:      Wed, 05 Apr 2006 16:56:28 -0400
From:      Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
To:        shih@math.jussieu.fr
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Disappointed
Message-ID:  <6.2.3.4.0.20060405164905.09e6d1c8@64.7.153.2>
In-Reply-To: <20060405203741.GF14126@math.jussieu.fr>
References:  <20060405200341.GD14126@math.jussieu.fr> <20060405200727.GA28371@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060405201500.GE14126@math.jussieu.fr> <20060405202100.GA28626@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060405203741.GF14126@math.jussieu.fr>

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At 04:37 PM 05/04/2006, Albert Shih wrote:


>NB: Why this kind of problem can happen ? I ask this because until 6. I
>never have this kind of problem.


Think about it this way, if one of your users came to you and said, 
"its not working. I need you to fix it"... You would start by getting 
your user to provide details of what "it" is.

So when you ask "why this kind of problem can happen", you have not 
provided any details as to what the problem is.  The crash can be bad 
hardware, it could be a change in any number of drivers.  No one 
knows what hardware you are using even.  It could be something as 
simple as a NIC driver regression or not. But without details, its 
not possible to do anything.

Start by creating a debug kernel (see the website documentation on 
how to do it and how to enable and save a crash dump) as well as by 
providing a dmesg that shows the hardware you are using.  The more 
detail and description you provide in the PR, the better the chance 
someone can fix it or help you work around it.

         ---Mike 




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