Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:47:18 +0930 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: Darryl Okahata <darrylo@soco.agilent.com>, Jay Kuri <jay@oneway.com>, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Dell Inspiron Message-ID: <20000803094718.R36094@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000802140411.05180a70@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 02:12:11PM -0600 References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000802141320.046d1ca0@localhost> <200008022048.NAA01799@mass.osd.bsdi.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20000802143811.0517eee0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20000802141320.046d1ca0@localhost> <200008022048.NAA01799@mass.osd.bsdi.com> <200008020116.SAA15805@mina.soco.agilent.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20000801154059.04c50b80@localhost> <200008020116.SAA15805@mina.soco.agilent.com> <20000802110407.F36094@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20000802140411.05180a70@localhost>
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On Wednesday, 2 August 2000 at 13:48:14 -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
>> At 01:42 AM 8/2/2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm. Why are you installing from floppy?
>>
>> Because I want some things that wouldn't be on
>> CD-ROM. The easiest way to install everything from one
>> source is to do a net install.
>
> This is bollocks. You can change the media during the install, not to
> mention rebooting if you're so wrought up over the pccard issues and then
> resuming installing afterwards.
On Wednesday, 2 August 2000 at 14:42:04 -0600, Brett Glass wrote:
> At 02:48 PM 8/2/2000, Mike Smith wrote:
>
>>> Because I want some things that wouldn't be on
>>> CD-ROM. The easiest way to install everything from one
>>> source is to do a net install.
>>
>> This is bollocks. You can change the media during the install, not to
>> mention rebooting if you're so wrought up over the pccard issues and then
>> resuming installing afterwards.
>
> There should be no need to do this. It should be easy and painless
> to do a complete, straight-through network install.
>
> What's more, the problems with PCMCIA cards aren't limited to network
> cards. NO card will work properly by default on such a machine, either
> during installation or afterward. This does not make FreeBSD look good
> on portables.
You people are confusing two things:
1. Allegedly ("I haven't checked it myself"), sysinstall doesn't give
you complete control over the choice of IRQs. This is a problem.
2. There's no reason ever for a net install if you have the CD-ROM.
Even if you don't have the CD-ROM, nowadays it's easier to get an
ISO from an ftp site and do it that way.
On the whole, though, I think you're (Brett) making it harder for
yourself than necessary. We've explained in minute detail what you
need to do; why don't you just do it?
Greg
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