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Date:      Fri, 21 Dec 2001 01:00:50 -0600
From:      "Mike Meyer" <mwm-dated-1009350051.1df0ee@mired.org>
To:        swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen)
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: GPL nonsense: time to stop
Message-ID:  <15394.56866.830152.580700@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <fxlmfxukw9.mfx@localhost.localdomain>
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Gary W. Swearingen <swear@blarg.net> types:
> "Mike Meyer" <mwm-dated-1009336534.95d7c6@mired.org> writes:
> My "combine copies" was loose writing.  I doubt it makes much difference
> which term from 17 USC it most closely matches as far as my argument
> goes, but for the case being discussed I suppose it would have been
> better to say something like "create a collective work" or maybe just
> "derivative".
> 
> > This sounds like it's possible for party A to license software S from
> > party B, then have the terms of the license changed by party C by
> > "combining copies", even though they have nothing to do with A, B or
> > any rights to S. That one is a bit hard to swallow.
> 
> I'm not sure I understand the scenario, or at least the reason for it.
> 
> C could "combine copies" of S and something else and create a collective
> work (which I think can also be called a "derivative"), but, not owning
> S or having license to use it, may not copy or distribute copies of such
> work.  (Actually, combining copies probably constitutes copying of the
> parts an so he probably can't even create the original copy.)
> 
> He certainly may not change any license on S, unless there's something
> in this scenario you haven't told me (like something's BSDL'd or GPL'd).

Ok, here's a more concrete scenario. B distributes S under BSDL, which
is how A gets it. This also means that C can get a copy and
redistribute it. In particular, combining C with software T, which is
GPL'ed. From what you said earlier, all versions of S are now covered
by the GPL, even though the original license was BSDL, not GPL.

	<mike
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