Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:24:13 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Mori Hiroki <yamori813@yahoo.co.jp> Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Armeb removal before 12 Message-ID: <CANCZdfpbNfajJs82tx1CgyNCN1QNAdZwd=nut0J_Gq8ZR2xz4w@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <861063.32056.qm@web101713.mail.ssk.yahoo.co.jp> References: <CANCZdfoVYJbJEM-PhKL3Y_edp=X6Smb1uYHrEiYSm%2BZXsTmzdw@mail.gmail.com> <540973.43848.qm@web101701.mail.ssk.yahoo.co.jp> <CANCZdfr5yL7qbgGzJxRAQSq=CGC35L8rwR0knEQf6UpSNPUCOw@mail.gmail.com> <861063.32056.qm@web101713.mail.ssk.yahoo.co.jp>
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On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Mori Hiroki <yamori813@yahoo.co.jp> wrote: > Hi > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> > >To: Mori Hiroki <yamori813@yahoo.co.jp> > >Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>; " > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org> > >Date: 2018/6/14, Thu 07:57 > >Subject: Re: Armeb removal before 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Mori Hiroki <yamori813@yahoo.co.jp> > wrote: > > > >Hi. > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> > >>> To: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>; " > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org> > >>> Cc: > >>> Date: 2018/6/14, Thu 01:55 > >>> Subject: Armeb removal before 12 > >>> > >>> I'd like to remove armeb before 12.0. > >>> > >>> It's poorly supported today. > >>> > >>> Nobody has tested the concurrency kit changes on it. And ck is now > >>> mandatory. We don't even know if it works or not. > >>> > >>> Last time we asked, it took quite a while to find users. > >>> > >>> It maxes out at 256MB of RAM. This is barely large enough for FreeBSD > to > >>> run in. > >> > >>sys/arm/ralink target is only 16M of RAM. I use bridge on this target > >>work fine. > >> > > > > > >Even with current? It seems to have grown a lot. Even FreeBSD 11 on my > atmel boards, the 32MB ones can't really do much of anything (though a > custom /etc/rc.d might be usable). The 64MB ones I have troubles logging > into without disabling a ton of stuff. And FreeBSD-current is even larger. > > > > > >Are you using a custom rc.d in this setup? > > > Of course CURRENT. > > https://gist.github.com/yamori813/88224f1c96c9c592fb611b12a15e4ab5 > > > I use custom rc.d by ZRouter build system. > Cool! You have 10MB available. what all runs in that little space? I didn't see too much starting up Warner > Thanks > > Hiroki Mori > > > > >I have FWIXP422BB target(Planex BRC-14VG) with 32M of RAM. I never build > >>FreeBSD for this target. > >> > >>I want build for FWIXP422BB but clang cross build is very slow. It take > >>7 hour on my machine. > > > > > >I'm sorry to hear that. Even on my fast machines, it takes long time. > > > > > >Warner > > > > > > > > > >>> > >>> The hardware was last made almost a decade ago. > >>> > >>> It uses non-standard non-mainstream boot loaders (boot technology has > moved > >>> on from redboot). > >>> > >>> The cost of doing API sweeps, make universe runs, etc exceeds the > benefit > >>> to the project. > >>> > >>> So, given all these factors, it sounds like a good candidate for > retirement. > >>> > >>> Therefore, I'd like to remove it on July 15th. > >>> > >>> Comments? (please keep them on topic to this specific thing: there's > other > >>> things that may also be past their freshness date, we'll discuss those > in a > >>> separate thread). > >>> > >>> Warner > >> > >>> ______________________________ _________________ > >>> freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list > >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/ mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@ freebsd.org > " > >>> > >> > > > > > > >
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