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Date:      Sun, 30 Aug 2020 13:39:45 -0600
From:      Gary Aitken <freebsd@dreamchaser.org>
To:        Yuri <yuri@FreeBSD.org>, FreeBSD Developers <developers@freebsd.org>, ports@freebsd.org
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Aggressive ports removal
Message-ID:  <3c5b533e-ae3b-5c8d-7ad9-9ea2013ee5e5@dreamchaser.org>
In-Reply-To: <c39d3b50-f4f6-5865-8a6c-6c6add9fe9bd@rawbw.com>
References:  <202008291154.07TBsr7L086597@repo.freebsd.org> <FC66C7DA-2A0D-43E7-B29C-E4C94C1973BA@freebsd.org> <f56625f8-1d63-515c-93af-909a4e47e65d@freebsd.org> <9a4583d9-097e-d0ba-4959-5c4d7b96b611@freebsd.org> <20200829232707.GC46173@eureka.lemis.com> <f9cd7c4d-9477-89ab-f054-75b9bf9ca077@freebsd.org> <3ef2fdf3-c746-2f57-ec2f-2f8784bfd5ce@dreamchaser.org> <CANCZdfoGmQq_5S7JKMsC1EpJ-uh6NYrkq=9NbdwFsG3fP3mqGA@mail.gmail.com> <c39d3b50-f4f6-5865-8a6c-6c6add9fe9bd@rawbw.com>

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On 8/30/20 12:20 PM, Warner Losh wrote:>

> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 12:13 PM Gary Aitken <freebsd@dreamchaser.org <mailto:freebsd@dreamchaser.org>> wrote:
> 
> I don't know how easy this would be to implement, but it would be
> very useful to know which ports are actually being built and
> installed.  How difficult would it be to have pkg install and the
> make install script do some counting and a cron job forward the
> counts to freebsd.org <http://freebsd.org>?  That would give a much 
> better sense of how useful a port is.  Yes, it's inaccurate given
> rebuilds, upgrades, etc., but if a port shows zero installs for
> several years it seems like it could be sidelined.
> 
> The issue here is more social than technical. Most people don't want
> to disclose this information.

On 8/30/20 12:53 PM, Yuri wrote:
> 
> This is already implemented in the BSDstats project 
> (sysutils/bsdstats). It does such accounting for hosts that have 
> BSDstats installed. It shows stats on it's webpage 
> https://bsdstats.org/
> 
> However, not many people are willing to install sysutils/bsdstats,
> or know about it, so it only counts based on a tiny fraction of
> hosts running FreeBSD.

Thanks, I didn't realize port info was reported by bsdstats.
However, the ports link at the bottom doesn't work.
Also, the Release Stats link at both the top and bottom seems to change to point
at the last page displayed.

Should I file a bug report?

Gary







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