Date: Wed, 28 Jan 98 18:43:00 PST From: Adam Turoff <AdamT@smginc.com> To: hackers <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>, "'nate@mt.sri.com'" <nate@mt.sri.com> Subject: RE: /usr/src/release/sysinstall needs US. :-)) Message-ID: <34D13E38@smginc.com>
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> > And how do you intend to dynamically extend the client in this
> > scenario? The server will upload java code on demand, or what
> > exactly?
>
> Java does dynamic extension loading on the fly quite well, even better
> than TCL since you can extend the loader to do it however you want.
Our
> product uses that feature extensively. :)
Yeah, extensibility through dynamic loading is nice, but I for one don't
want
to make sure I have the right version of lesstif properly linked to the
proper
JVM just to make my life simpler.
I'm running a headless box in another room, and I don't want to install X
on it, and I don't think that should prevent me from doing local admin.
Or is there a plan to have java.curses.* in the next JDK? :-)
Yeah, Java is cool, and it'll wash the dishes in a year or two. But can
we _please_ move past the "it'll be better in Java" evangelism? Let's
just
agree that if someone wants to write a COBOL client running under
MVS to admin a FreeBSD box that they should be able to do that, and the
extensibility problem on them to deal with.
Here's what I've heard/suggested:
local admin, X or curses based
web admin available but easily disabled
admind type access available and easily configured
java/tcl/perl/VB/* clients should be supported locally and remotely
Jordan has mentioned a couple of projects that have started and stopped.
Does anyone know of any others out there? Does anyone know of a
potential
gotcha waiting to be found by a newbie admin? I'm assuming the basline
OS will be FreeBSD 2.2.5. Are there any subtle changes in the works for
the
config files in 3.0-current? (Ports to *BSD/Linux are someone else's
problem.)
-- Adam.
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