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Date:      Mon, 14 Apr 1997 04:22:43 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Vincent Poy <vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM>
To:        John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu>
Cc:        isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Some advice needed.
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.970414041618.27997t-100000@mail.MCESTATE.COM>
In-Reply-To: <19970414034150.35628@hydrogen.nike.efn.org>

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On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, John-Mark Gurney wrote:

> > 	Hmm, besides not being an Intel, what is the main differences
> > between the AMD and the Intel?
> 
> I would say it's the price... :) I run one of their AMD 5x86/133 processors..
> the only reason they rate the processor at P75 is because it doesn't have the
> memory bandwidth that a petium has...  it out performs a friends P90 according
> to Norton Sysinfo's CPU Benchmark...

	I doubt it's just the price since Intel is the real thing while
AMD isn't.   And isn't the 5x86 more of a 486 chip than a P5 competitor?

> the best place to get more specific info would be to visit AMD's home page...

	Actually, that's the worst place since they will always make their
product sound better.

> [...]
> 
> > 	Hmmm, I don't think 16 megs is enough these days for anything
> > especially when it's doing something like this.
> 
> well.. if your running a terminal server.. I'm pretty sure 16megs would be
> more than plenty...  remeber there isn't that much data that is used in a
> terminal server... you will only end up with a max of 100k per port.. and
> that means you can have around 80 ports in 8megs of ram...  leaving the
> rest for other stuff.. and that 100k per port figure is being overly
> generous...

	Well, if you had telnet/rlogin as well as pppd for that term
server and the machine might also use a ET card to function as a router
too, it might not be enough.

> > 	I guess things are always hard until you do it a few times or even
> > the first time.  I saw your example gated.conf file but am still a bit
> > confused on how to get it setted up correctly.
> 
> heh..  know what you mean...  I haven't played much with it...  I just got
> that config file working.. and haven't played with it since.. :)

	It's just like when we got our ET based router working with 
GaiaNet, we're not touching that FreeBSD box since we don't have a backup
router if it doesn't work the next time again =)

> > 	Hmmm, that is a good reason but wouldn't a 56k not have enough 
> > bandwidth for the modems?
> 
> well... if your starting out it should be fine for 5-10 modems.. though you
> will EASYLY over load it.. especially if more than one or two people decide
> to startup a ftp session...  and once you have the 5-10 modems.. you're very
> close to getting the 1k a month for T1...  and in the mean time... you can
> go fract t1...

	Hmm, isn't 5-10 modems already 640k of bandwidth while the line is 
56k only?  I mean even 2 28.8k modems already use more than 56k.

> > 	What is the speed the microwave runs at?  A T1 actually runs
> 
> I don't know exactly...  this is all from a short conversation about
> alternate providers...  (and now I can't even remeber the provider's name :( )

	Hopefully you'll remember sometime.

> > 1.536Mbps only.  I just wished there was a way to hook up ethernet cable
> > to the NSP as they are only 1.5 blocks away.  
> 
> well... talk to 'em... there might be a way... either with the telco running
> dry copper for you or some way else... then you can use something like
> etinc's bandwidth limiter to limit the bandwidth you will push/get...

	I'm not sure since it seems like they quoted me a price that
includes the line to the telco so that might not be possible.


Cheers,
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