Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:43:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Dror Matalon <dror@dnai.com> To: "Chris B. Wilson" <cbw@vector.net> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ascend access switches? Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.93.960925223523.445E-100000@mars.dnai.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSI.3.95.960925194832.12150D-100000@radius.vector.net>
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We use both the Max and the old portmasters (pm2e). The Max 4000 for ISDN and the portmaster in conjunction with Microcom Racks for modems. The 4000 is wonderful since you get a device that's smaller than a portmaster that handles up to 95 B channels. I wish Ascend's QA department would be a little more careful with the numerous releases they issue so that we don't need to keep updating as often as we do. Other than that the Max is a nice Box. The old portmasters are old workhorses, they handle up to 30 28.8/33.6 modems and they just work and work. On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Chris B. Wilson wrote: > Livingston has just announced the latest product in their PortMaster line, > the Portmaster 3. It integrates ISDN and Analog connections into the same > box, in the fassion of the MAX. However, Livingston's solution is *much* > more affordable. A fully loaded 48-port PM3 which will support 48 B > channels or 48 33.6k digital modem connections (or any combination > inbetween) is only around $350/port. > > That is *very* impressive, since if you considered the previous > alternatives. $350/port is a damn good price even for analog dial-up > (managed rack mount). Plus having 48 ports in half the space of a PM2E is > pretty impressive. As far as I'm concerned this is vapor-ware. It's not shipping, so it might be here in a month, or not. Please notice also that Ascend has a deal for ISPs, a Max4000 with 48 digital modems for 22,500 or $468 ports. Since you get 45 more B channels, this is a great deal if you do both ISDN and modems. > > I've been using Livingston for quite a while now, and have been very happy > with their products, support, and people. > > Chris > > On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Tony Kimball wrote: > > > Quoth Graydon Hoare on Wed, 25 September: > > : Anyone used one of these ascend max 4000ex's? > > : My boss just handed me literature. they look a lot like the telebit mica > > : machines. I see lots of people discussing their portmasters -- anyone > > : tried anything else? > > > > PortMaster is a trademark of Livingston, a competitor to Ascend. > > There are PortMaster terminal servers (POTS/ISDN) and (integrated) > > routers. I have used neither, but will say that the word of mouth on > > Ascend products is much better than Livingston products, if you can > > stomach their licensing terms, which I cannot. > > > > > > > > > > > // Chris Wilson, Gateway Telecommunications, Inc. | Ofc: 352.375.8658 // > // http://www.vector.net/~cbw cbw@vector.net | Pgr: 352.412.4341 // > // VectorNet - Quality Internet in Gainesville, Florida | Fax: 352.376.8353 // > > Dror Matalon Voice: 510 649-6110 Direct Network Access Fax: 510 649-7130 2039 Shattuck Avenue Modem: 510 649-6116 Berkeley, CA 94704 Email: dror@dnai.com
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