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Date:      Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:17:05 -0500
From:      "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@futuresouth.com>
To:        Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org>
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Bugfixes, security fixes, versions
Message-ID:  <20001008151705.B4525@futuresouth.com>
In-Reply-To: <20001008075316.8D2D91F23@static.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 12:53:16AM -0700
References:  <20001007213929.C24996@futuresouth.com> <20001008075316.8D2D91F23@static.unixfreak.org>

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On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 12:53:16AM -0700, a little birdie told me
that Dima Dorfman remarked
> 
> Why not just use a date?  I do this on most of my systems.  My `uname
> -r` reads:
> 
> 4.1-20000916-STABLE
> 
> I started doing this for the exact same reason you described above--to
> know when I updated the system.  It does clutter the `uname -a` output
> a bit, so it could be done similar to the way you suggested with the
> flag: "4.1-STABLE 20000916".
> 
> Just a thought.

And a good way of doing it too, if we were already.
My thought was 'as long as we're changing it already, might as well make
it foolproof'.  With a date, you still have a little uncertainty because
of lags between CVSup servers, what time of the day the fix was committed,
etc.  It's maybe 90% sure, but you just *KNOW* someone is gonna try to
sue us or raise holy hell over that 10% when it happens to them.  With
tags per-fix in the version, we're pretty much 100% certain that the fix
is or isn't in that specific system, outside of people muddying things
up by screwing with stuff manually, in which case we can assume that they
know what they're doing (or deserve what they get).



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Matthew Fuller     (MF4839)     |    fullermd@over-yonder.net
Unix Systems Administrator      |    fullermd@futuresouth.com
Specializing in FreeBSD         |    http://www.over-yonder.net/

"The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I
      haven't figured out how to light the middle yet"


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