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Date:      Tue, 4 Apr 2023 13:03:17 +0200
From:      Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
To:        Dmitry Salychev <dsl@mcusim.org>
Cc:        Marcin Cieslak <saper@saper.info>, Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Pinephone Pro
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Hello,

I see that the Pinebook pro is very expensive for me. Can I collaborate
with you if I bought this version of the PinePhone ?

https://pine64.com/product/pinephone-beta-edition-with-convergence-package/

On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 11:57=E2=80=AFAM Dmitry Salychev <dsl@mcusim.org> wr=
ote:

>
> Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > PineTime is interesting and it is in my budget. I could buy it and then
> try to play a little bit with it. Maybe FreeBSD can be installed there ?
> > or Linux ?
>
> PineTime is built upon nRF52832 (64 MHz Cortex-M4) which doesn't have
> MMU. So, no FreeBSD or Linux can be used there (uCLinux is an exception,
> but 64 KiB of RAM isn't enough).
>
> Details: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=3D8112
>
> Regards,
> Dmitry
>
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 11:29=E2=80=AFAM Dmitry Salychev <dsl@mcusim.org=
> wrote:
> >
> >  Marcin Cieslak <saper@saper.info> writes:
> >
> >  > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]]
> >  > On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Dmitry Salychev wrote:
> >  >
> >  >>> I think you should be prepared to build your own image.
> >  >>> With FreeBSD it is not very difficult (I find it easier than in
> >  >>> the Linux world).
> >  >>>
> >  >>> Marcin
> >  >>>
> >  >>> [[End of S/MIME Signed Part]]
> >  >>
> >  >> I'd take their device tree and try to boot GENERIC kernel for arm64
> in
> >  >> order to get an idea which drivers are missing:
> >  >>
> >  >> # dmesg | grep "no driver" | grep -v "disabled"
> >  >>
> >  >> Pete, are you going to keep your findings somewhere? I don't have
> >  >> PinePhone Pro at the moment, but would like to follow and can suppo=
rt
> >  >> with customizing your kernel.
> >  >
> >  > Now thinking about getting one, too.. Maybe wiki.freeebsd.org could
> be the place
> >  > to keep notes?
> >  >
> >  > saper
> >  >
> >  > [[End of S/MIME Signed Part]]
> >
> >  Btw, it has almost nothing to do with the FreeBSD itself, but I recent=
ly
> >  received PineTime (both sealed one and a devkit) as a gift and can say
> >  that it's quite good in terms of PCB/assembling quality. Their
> FreeRTOS-based
> >  OS works surprisingly good as well. If the PinePhone Pro is similar,
> >  it's worth bringing FreeBSD there.
> >
> >  +1 for notes kept at wiki.freebsd.org
> >
> >  Regards,
> >  Dmitry
> >
> >  --
> >  Open source software/hardware enthusiast
> >  hackaday.io/dsl | github.com/mcusim | patreon.com/salychev
>
>
> --
> Open source software/hardware enthusiast
> hackaday.io/dsl | github.com/mcusim | patreon.com/salychev
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>I see that the Pinebo=
ok pro is very expensive for me. Can I collaborate with you if I bought thi=
s version of the PinePhone ?</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://pi=
ne64.com/product/pinephone-beta-edition-with-convergence-package/">https://=
pine64.com/product/pinephone-beta-edition-with-convergence-package/</a></di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 11:57=E2=80=AFAM Dmitry Salychev &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:dsl@mcusim.org" target=3D"_blank">dsl@mcusim.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Mario Marietto &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">marietto2008@gmail.com</a>&gt; writes:<br>
<br>
&gt; PineTime is interesting and it is in my budget. I could buy it and the=
n try to play a little bit with it. Maybe FreeBSD can be installed there ?<=
br>
&gt; or Linux ?<br>
<br>
PineTime is built upon nRF52832 (64 MHz Cortex-M4) which doesn&#39;t have<b=
r>
MMU. So, no FreeBSD or Linux can be used there (uCLinux is an exception,<br=
>
but 64 KiB of RAM isn&#39;t enough).<br>
<br>
Details: <a href=3D"https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=3D8112" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?t=
id=3D8112</a><br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Dmitry<br>
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 11:29=E2=80=AFAM Dmitry Salychev &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:dsl@mcusim.org" target=3D"_blank">dsl@mcusim.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Marcin Cieslak &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:saper@saper.info" target=3D=
"_blank">saper@saper.info</a>&gt; writes:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]]<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Dmitry Salychev wrote:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; I think you should be prepared to build your own im=
age.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; With FreeBSD it is not very difficult (I find it ea=
sier than in<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; the Linux world).<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; Marcin<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; [[End of S/MIME Signed Part]]<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt; I&#39;d take their device tree and try to boot GENERIC =
kernel for arm64 in<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt; order to get an idea which drivers are missing:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt; # dmesg | grep &quot;no driver&quot; | grep -v &quot;di=
sabled&quot;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt; Pete, are you going to keep your findings somewhere? I =
don&#39;t have<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt; PinePhone Pro at the moment, but would like to follow a=
nd can support<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;&gt; with customizing your kernel.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; Now thinking about getting one, too.. Maybe <a href=3D"http=
://wiki.freeebsd.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">wiki.freeebsd.or=
g</a> could be the place<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; to keep notes?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; saper<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; [[End of S/MIME Signed Part]]<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Btw, it has almost nothing to do with the FreeBSD itself, but I =
recently<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 received PineTime (both sealed one and a devkit) as a gift and c=
an say<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 that it&#39;s quite good in terms of PCB/assembling quality. The=
ir FreeRTOS-based<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 OS works surprisingly good as well. If the PinePhone Pro is simi=
lar,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 it&#39;s worth bringing FreeBSD there.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 +1 for notes kept at <a href=3D"http://wiki.freebsd.org" rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">wiki.freebsd.org</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Regards,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Dmitry<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 -- <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Open source software/hardware enthusiast<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://hackaday.io/dsl" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"=
_blank">hackaday.io/dsl</a> | <a href=3D"http://github.com/mcusim" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">github.com/mcusim</a> | <a href=3D"http://patr=
eon.com/salychev" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">patreon.com/salychev=
</a><br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Open source software/hardware enthusiast<br>
<a href=3D"http://hackaday.io/dsl" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">hac=
kaday.io/dsl</a> | <a href=3D"http://github.com/mcusim" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">github.com/mcusim</a> | <a href=3D"http://patreon.com/sal=
ychev" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">patreon.com/salychev</a><br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br><span>-- </span><br><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Mario.<br></div>

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