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Date:      Sun, 24 Aug 2025 12:45:58 -0700
From:      Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
To:        =?UTF-8?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>, Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@gmail.com>,  freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf and /usr/local/etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf (not repo names)
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On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 10:20 AM Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@freebsd.org>
wrote:

> Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp> writes:
> > I think pkg is quite irregular corner case.
> > Indeed, it SHALL be the part of base, but as it is still under active
> > developement, need to be in ports "until the spec prolerly fixed up".
> > So exists /usr/sbin/pkg for bootstrapping.
>
> I don't know where you got that idea.  It's in ports because it's
> closely tied to the ports tree and has a different lifecycle than base.
>
> DES
> --
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@FreeBSD.org
>

My distinct recollection is that bapt posted that because pkg was under
very active development and needed to be consistent for all versions of
base, the bootstrap mechanism would be used until pkg was stable and the db
would not be reconfigured. (I assume that this meant incompatible changes
to the schema.)

My strong belief is that pkg needs to always be bootstrapped as it is
unlikely to never be that stable.
-- 
Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683

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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 10:20 AM Dag-Erling Smørgrav &lt;<a href="mailto:des@freebsd.org">des@freebsd.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Tomoaki AOKI &lt;<a href="mailto:junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp" target="_blank">junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp</a>&gt; writes:<br>
&gt; I think pkg is quite irregular corner case.<br>
&gt; Indeed, it SHALL be the part of base, but as it is still under active<br>
&gt; developement, need to be in ports &quot;until the spec prolerly fixed up&quot;.<br>
&gt; So exists /usr/sbin/pkg for bootstrapping.<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t know where you got that idea.  It&#39;s in ports because it&#39;s<br>
closely tied to the ports tree and has a different lifecycle than base.<br>
<br>
DES<br>
-- <br>
Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@FreeBSD.org<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="gmail_default">My distinct recollection is that bapt posted that because pkg was under very active development and needed to be consistent for all versions of base, the bootstrap mechanism would be used until pkg was stable and the db would not be reconfigured. (I assume that this meant incompatible changes to the schema.) </div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="gmail_default">My strong belief is that pkg needs to always be bootstrapped as it is unlikely to never be that stable.</div></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer<br>E-mail: <a href="mailto:rkoberman@gmail.com" target="_blank">rkoberman@gmail.com</a><br></div><div>PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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