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Date:      Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:03:08 -0600
From:      Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
Cc:        cjclark@home.com, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca (Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group), dillon@apollo.backplane.com (Matthew Dillon), freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: dump(8) Insecurity/Misconfiguration
Message-ID:  <199909271903.NAA11566@mt.sri.com>
In-Reply-To: <199909271841.LAA12907@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
References:  <199909271615.MAA92288@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> <199909271841.LAA12907@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>

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[ Rod, you *really* need to get out more ]

> > "Companies are permitted to use this program as long as it is not used for
> > revenue-generating purposes. For example, an Internet service provider is
> > allowed to install this program on their systems and permit clients to use
> > SSH to connect; however, actively distributing SSH to clients for the
> > purpose of providing added value requires separate licensing.  Similarly,
> > a consultant may freely install this software on a client's machine for
> > his own use, but if he/she sells the client a system that uses SSH as a
> > component, a separate license is required."
> > 
> > I'm no lawyer, but it seems like using SSH for helping with dumps
> > would fall well within this license since backing up files does not
> > really generate much revenue for us.
> 
> I'm not a lawyer either, but I'll play the advocate here and show
> you why you are at risk.  First, you used the word ``much'' in the
> above sentence.  _Any_ is _some_ and is _not_ none, henceforth you
> voilate ``not used for ...''.  Second, since backups are a critical
> piece of keeping your business operating

No, they are not.  Many (most?) businesses are reliably operating
*today* without a working backup strategy.  Yes, it's stupid, but it
doesn't effect their ability to do business.  It's just that might not
work *as* reliably if a disk goes down, but stuff gets done even without
backups, since backups are rarely needed.

> A lot of people will say I have overstated the intent of the licence,
> I'll simply say that I am applying Blacks Legal dictionary to extract
> what _I_ see as the letter of the agreement.

Good thing you are aren't a lawyer.

> You may also find that the license fee is quite low for what you want to do.

NOT!


Nate


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