Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 10:36:24 From: "unknown source" <callihn@hotmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Would it be so hard? Message-ID: <F119Joma8QyOPzPQXWk000090fe@hotmail.com>
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>From: Mark Rowlands <mark.rowlands@minmail.net> >To: "unknown source" <callihn@hotmail.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: Would it be so hard? >Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 11:42:40 +0200 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [194.213.64.42] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBD2D258100B040043761C2D5402AC6200; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 02:42:27 -0700 >Received: (qmail 4799 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2001 11:42:25 +0200 >Received: from bb-62-5-32-206.bb.tninet.se (HELO pcmarpxy.tninet.se) >(62.5.32.206) by mail.telenordia.se with SMTP; 29 Jul 2001 11:42:25 +0200 >From mark.rowlands@minmail.net Sun, 29 Jul 2001 02:44:18 -0700 >X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] >References: <F231luLCTaogxLDp7mv00007431@hotmail.com> >In-Reply-To: <F231luLCTaogxLDp7mv00007431@hotmail.com> >Message-Id: <01072911424000.93828@pcmarpxy.tninet.se> > >On Sunday 29 July 2001 10:08, unknown source wrote, and I added some >punctuation: > > > Would it be so hard to have patched iso images of freebsd kinda like a >mini > > release I guess. > >Yes. who is going to do it that hasn't got something better to be doing? > > > I purchased the 4.2 powerpack and then purchased 4.3 for what? When I > > got them I had to patch the kernel, now that reminds me of M$ you buy >and > > buy and buy but you never have the latest and its never secure. > >No operating system, by definition, is ever really secure. > >I don't recall Microsoft issuing fresh patched iso' s of any o/s. Sun does, >if that is a requirement for you. > > > It really is a pain to have to patch the kernel three or four times >after > > an install from the iso not to mention all the ports that you will have >to > > fix > >You should only need to do this once initially to get the "latest" patches >and to customize the kernel for your hardware, and subsequently when >security >advisories that affect the services YOU are running are released or if >there >is a new/upgraded port you are desperate for. > > > I don't have enough bandwidth ...... > >Once upon a time, there was a world without dsl, isdn and even without 56k >modems.....strange but true. > >cvsup requires very little bandwidth, distributing iso images weekly >around >the world requires a tad more and would subtract from the bandwidth >available >to other users of the systems distributing these images. > >See the thread security and iso images from July 22nd > OK so I didn't make any friends with this =o). My point no microsoft doesnt make iso's for every bug but then again you dont have to know how to compile your own kernel and all you have to do it double click on the patch so its idiot proof and they dont have two bugs a week either but enough about bill bates. Lets make it simple just go here and count see how we are comparing to others o where not the worst lol look at mandrake http://www.linuxsecurity.com/advisories/ but where not up there where I wish we where with slackware,engarde,openbsd and a hand full of others and im sorry if that doesnt make me real happy, sorry. OK I guess the real point here is we patch and keep patching all im really trying to get at hear is "wouldn't it be nice to stabilize then build a new release with more features?" example finish say 4.2 were talking core only audited till its secure which I would say is ummmmm now? reiso it. Then came 4.3 still going with the bugs there and im sure more will be added with 4.4? This is my concern each release has more function but also more to explore and more exploiots on the way. If thats you answer just go to another OS you truely are in your own world do you think the server this list is on is 100% free or something? I tell you what why dont we all goto sun and swear to never by freebsd products again not even a tie or stuffed deamon mascot. We can meet back here in xx years OK? Anyway point is occurding to the norm here I am unreasonable, unwanted and so are any ideals I have to make freebsd a little better for some I guess mainly newbies. Just remember I was a customer I paid I seen I talked I left unhappy and many others will and people will ask us about freebsd and we will tell them,. SO you had better hope they like the ideal of how it is currently maintained and distibuted and remember there are more lazy idiots in the world than there are geniuses. Sincerely, FreeBSDFan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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