Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:48:10 -0600 From: "Michael C . Wu" <keichii@iteration.net> To: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VCD (was Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ata atapi-cd.c) Message-ID: <20010121184810.A45428@peorth.iteration.net> In-Reply-To: <v04220825b6912c57be5b@[10.0.1.2]>; from brad.knowles@skynet.be on Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:29:13AM %2B0100 References: <200101211447.f0LElEk04073@mobile.wemm.org> <KAECKEJJOLGHAFGGNIKMAELICAAA.res02jw5@gte.net> <20010121145018.A73989@citusc17.usc.edu> <20010121165422.A44505@peorth.iteration.net> <v04220821b691222656eb@[10.0.1.2]> <20010121181251.B44819@peorth.iteration.net> <v04220825b6912c57be5b@[10.0.1.2]>
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Kris asked me to trim the Cc: lines, He likes other forms of spam. Let's all mail him Subject: Make Money Fast! On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:29:13AM +0100, Brad Knowles scribbled: | At 6:12 PM -0600 2001/1/21, Michael C . Wu wrote: | | > Hmm? I can do that in Asia. But then there is no need to do so, | > since Asian countries like Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan cover | > every inch of their territories. (Benefit of a small country.) | | Do they cover all the mountainous areas? What about all rivers | and caves? Can you be 100% guaranteed that no matter where you were | to hike, camp, or do white-water rafting, you could always get full | and complete coverage with all of the carriers in the country? Hehe, yes, they do. As long as you keep the phone dry on white-water rafting trips. :) | You certainly can't get those kinds of guarantees over here, not | even in a country like Belgium that has about the same land mass as | the state of Maryland (one of the smaller states in the US), and with | less population than the combined Washington, D.C. and Baltimore | metropolitan areas (fifteen million people, total). Taiwan is only 30000 sq. km. Hong Kong and Singapore are islands. Japan is much larger but they have the most developed cell phone network in the world. | > Switch a SIM card? | Do you really want to carry around three SIM cards, three phone | numbers, and have to be constantly switching between them to get | coverage? You might as well have three cheap phones, one on each | network, and be done with it. Buy a dual-band phone? | Did you know that you can't use any SMS gateway I know of to send | SMS messages to customers that are not on the same carrier as the | gateway? Sure, if you're a human being and you're typing in an SMS | message, you can probably send it to any recipient on any carrier on | any phone number. Mmm, yes, my job is, currently, designing W-CDMA systems. | But if you want to receive automated SMS messages from a network | monitoring system, you have to make sure that the carrier for the | gateway machine is on the same carrier your phone is, otherwise it | simply won't work. We have investigated this matter at length, and | it looks like the only solution we have available to us is to set up | three separate gateways, one for each carrier within the country. | | > The US carriers identify via the EIN of the phone. | > But in reality, you really have no roaming between two carriers | > much. e.g. AT&T phones will not work with Sprint networks. | | But Sprint phones have to work on all the analog networks (which | they don't own), because their coverage is so incredibly crappy. You | can't go more than a pencils width away from the major interstates, | or outside the largest metropolitan areas, before you're off Sprint's | network and one one that belongs to someone else. It is very hard for the US to build a large-scale cell phone system simply because it is too large a country. | I've never, ever had a problem roaming on another network if that | is what it took to get signal coverage, even if I was in an area that | was supposedly covered by my carrier. | | All the GSM carriers over here have roaming arrangements with all | the other GSM carriers outside of their respective countries, but Same here. | roaming on a different network while you're inside the home country | of your carrier just isn't possible. And sometimes that is a major, | major pain-in-the-ass. Gotta love Asian carriers. | > Bottom line, I like GSM for being the lesser evil. | | I'll take CDMA, any day. Fortunately, I won't have to wait too | long before everything over here will be CDMA, and by then, maybe all | the stupid little national carriers will have been consolidated into Love love 3G+W-CDMA. | a small number of continental carriers that are all forced to have | roaming arrangements with each other, and then we won't have any more | of this incredibly stupid crap. -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@peorth.iteration.net | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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