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Date:      Mon, 30 May 2022 08:16:20 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Toomas Soome <tsoome@me.com>
Cc:        David Wolfskill <david@catwhisker.org>, FreeBSD Current <current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Loader can't find /boot/ua/loader.lua on UFS after main-n255828-18054d0220c
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On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 8:14 AM Toomas Soome <tsoome@me.com> wrote:

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> On 30. May 2022, at 17:06, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 4:26 AM David Wolfskill <david@catwhisker.org>
> wrote:
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>> On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 08:40:10AM +0300, Toomas Soome wrote:
>> > ...
>> > Does loader_4th have same issue?
>> > ....
>>
>> I don't know; I hadn't tried it.  I will do so later today & report
>> back.
>>
>
> So if it's only one system, and it's only UFS, then what does fsck of that
> UFS system tell you?
> The loader can't find its UFS filesystem to read the configuration from.
> So either its having trouble
> finding the device (unlikely since that code hasn't changed in a long
> time), or its having heartburn
> with the UFS system for some reason it's being silent about (within the
> realm of possibilities because
> there might be an unknown edge case in Kirks recent  UFS integrity
> changes). I suspect that the 4th
> boot loader will have the same issue, but a different error message.
>
> Others have reported issues with GELI, but that's not in play here, If I'm
> reading this correctly. Right?
>
> Warner
>
>
> Ye, thats why I was asking about loader_4th. I’m trying to spot the issue
> from ufs image sample.
>

I thought it was a good suggestion. My guess on it not working wasn't to
imply it wasn't.

Warner

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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 8:14 AM Toomas Soome &lt;<a href="mailto:tsoome@me.com">tsoome@me.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 30. May 2022, at 17:06, Warner Losh &lt;<a href="mailto:imp@bsdimp.com" target="_blank">imp@bsdimp.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 4:26 AM David Wolfskill &lt;<a href="mailto:david@catwhisker.org" target="_blank">david@catwhisker.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 08:40:10AM +0300, Toomas Soome wrote:<br>
&gt; ... <br>
&gt; Does loader_4th have same issue?<br>
&gt; ....<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t know; I hadn&#39;t tried it.  I will do so later today &amp; report<br>
back.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So if it&#39;s only one system, and it&#39;s only UFS, then what does fsck of that UFS system tell you?</div><div>The loader can&#39;t find its UFS filesystem to read the configuration from. So either its having trouble</div><div>finding the device (unlikely since that code hasn&#39;t changed in a long time), or its having heartburn</div><div>with the UFS system for some reason it&#39;s being silent about (within the realm of possibilities because</div><div>there might be an unknown edge case in Kirks recent  UFS integrity changes). I suspect that the 4th<br></div><div>boot loader will have the same issue, but a different error message.</div><div><br></div><div>Others have reported issues with GELI, but that&#39;s not in play here, If I&#39;m reading this correctly. Right?</div><div><br></div><div>Warner</div></div></div>
</div></blockquote></div><br><div>Ye, thats why I was asking about loader_4th. I’m trying to spot the issue from ufs image sample. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I thought it was a good suggestion. My guess on it not working wasn&#39;t to imply it wasn&#39;t.</div><div><br></div><div>Warner </div></div></div>
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