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Date:      Thu, 4 Jan 2018 09:14:17 +0000
From:      Steven Hartland <killing@multiplay.co.uk>
To:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Intel hardware bug
Message-ID:  <fd4dd222-4833-b6d7-32bb-c0cccba1cf54@multiplay.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <20726.1515042417@segfault.tristatelogic.com>
References:  <20726.1515042417@segfault.tristatelogic.com>

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On 04/01/2018 05:06, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> In message <2347560.AJVtGcUuTT@elisha.atlnet>,
> Joey Kelly <joey@joeykelly.net> wrote:
>
>> ...
>> No, I mean their lame excuses, dances around the truth, claiming many other
>> platforms AND OPERATING SYSTEMS do it too. 'Tain't so. This is hardware, INTEL
>> hardware, and not an OS problem...
> While it is clearly true, even from the current very preliminary reports, that
> this is indeed a hardware issue, rather than an OS issue, you may want to reserve
> judgement about the possibility that this thing is confined only to Intel hardware.
>
> Intel, of course, has said that they believe that this bug may also affect
> AMD and also ARM CPUs.  (But then they would say that, wouldn't they?)  But
> AMD, for its part, has already put out a public statement saying that their
> CPUs are not affected.
>
> So now, the other shoe that we should all be expecting to drop, any time now,
> is some public statement from ARM Holdings, PLC.  If one has already been issued
> by that company, then Google News doesn't seem to be giving me any easy way to
> find it, and there is nothing of relevance on the ARM corporate web site
> (www.arm.com).  So I suspect that they haven't said anything yet, which is
> itself a rather ominous data point.
They already have:
https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/reading-privileged-memory-with-side.html
>
> If it turns out that this same bug, or same sort of bug, also affects ARM-based
> chips, then that is quite possibly an even bigger deal than the already obvious
> Intel cataclysm.
>
>
> Regards,
> rfg
>




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