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Date:      Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:54:42 -0800
From:      Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [HEADS UP] GNU make 3.82
Message-ID:  <4D7BEBA2.9090509@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20110312214733.GA26099@lonesome.com>
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On 03/12/2011 13:47, Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 01:34:58PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
>>> Would you please offer examples of decisions that you feel that way about?
>>
>> Clearly it would be inappropriate for me to comment publicly on
>> things that were discussed in private, so no, I'm not going to do
>> that.
>
> You just discussed it in public.
>
> Having done that, in my book, you owe it to the community to either
> a) discuss it in public, now that you've made accusations in public, or
> b) handle it in private by taking your complaints directly to core@ and
> have them take whatever action they feel appropriate with portmgr.

c) be willing to move past the mistakes that have been made in the past, 
and ask for more openness going forward.

> Anything else is just hand-waving.  Being non-specific won't cause
> anything to change.

You snipped the part of my previous response where I did outline some 
specific things that I'm concerned about.

Meanwhile, the fact that you're focusing on silly procedural stuff 
rather than focusing on the real problem(s) is (once again) part of the 
problem.


Doug

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