Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:03:18 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl> To: Yuval Levy <yuval_levy@yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystems not properly unmounted [OT] Message-ID: <20050606150318.GA1981@freebie.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <42A46519.5080003@yahoo.com> References: <200506061402.j56E22tG021214@lurza.secnetix.de> <42A46519.5080003@yahoo.com>
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Can the two of you please take this bikeshed to -chat or wherever? Thank you, Wilko On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:00:41AM -0400, Yuval Levy wrote.. > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > >I do look carefully every day, because it's my job. I work > >with various operating systems every day, including FreeBSD > >and Linux. > > > > > From a professional I would expect a more mature and balanced approach, > rather than "my favorite OS is the best one and the others have no > advantages". Be real: there is a lot of diversity of OS out there and > they all have advantages and disadvantages. For as much as I love > FreeBSD, it is not (and probably can't be) better than all OS on all > comparisons. Diversity is good, most existing OS have their rightful > place in the IT ecosystem. > > >> Just to mention the first thing that comes to my mind: several linux > >> distros have achieved a difficult goal: ease of installation-use > >> combined with a stable system. > > > >Yup, I know the usual freebsd-for-servers and linux-for- > >desktops arguments. And to be honest, I'm fed up with > >them. They're lies. I'm running FreeBSD on my desktop > >at home, a lot of people are happily running Linux on > >their servers, and I've seen people successfully installing > >FreeBSD who have never even heard the word "unix" until > >that day. > > > > > You can run FreeBSD on your desktop at home because you have the skills, > the time, the dedication. You are special. Every human being is special > and there are plenty of us out there that have other skills and want to > dedicate their time to something else (like > <http://www.photopla.net/pano.php?id=25>). They do not share your view. > I do not share your view. This does not make us liars. > > I am moving my servers from Linux to FreeBSD, because FreeBSD gives me > the manageability, stability and security that are more important to my > clients than the bleeding edge features that often make it into Linux first. > > I am generally inclined toward Open Source software over proprietary > one, but will pragmatically mix and match to obtain what works best for > me rather than dogmatically pretend that my favorite OS is the best and > its filesystem is the brightest and its license is the only acceptable > distribution form. > > Which brings me back to the topic of this thread: is there anybody out > there with the skills to cleanly solve this shameful situation in which > rebooting FreeBSD results in unclean mounting of ext2 (and potentially > other) volumes? > > Yuv > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --- end of quoted text --- -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org
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