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Date:      Thu, 7 Nov 2024 12:56:05 +0100 (CET)
From:      Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws>
To:        Johan Hendriks <joh.hendriks@gmail.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: BRT copying feature
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Van: Johan Hendriks <joh.hendriks@gmail.com>
Datum: donderdag, 7 november 2024 11:43
Aan: Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws>
CC: FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Onderwerp: Re: BRT copying feature
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> =20
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> On 06/11/2024 13:15, Ronald Klop wrote:
>> Hi,
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>> When you create a new pool you can use something like this:
>> zpool create -o feature@block_cloning=3Ddisabled ...
>>=20
>> I tried setting this on an existing pool. That gave me an error.
>> # zpool set feature@block_cloning=3Ddisabled zdata4
>> cannot set property for 'zdata4': property 'feature@block_cloning' can o=
nly be set to 'disabled' at creation time
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>> So to install a new 14.2 system you need to do some manual work to creat=
e the root pool with the options you prefer.
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> Ronald.
>>=20
>> =20
>> Van: Johan Hendriks <joh.hendriks@gmail.com>
>> Datum: woensdag, 6 november 2024 09:37
>> Aan: FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
>> Onderwerp: BRT copying feature
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>>> I installed the latest 14.2 Beta and i noticed that on the root pool th=
e BRT copying feature is enabled on the pool.
>>> I know i need to set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=3D1 to really make us of it=
. But i do not want this on my root pool but i do want to use it on my stor=
age pool.
>>> I can not disable this feature on the root pool as it is a feature that=
 can only be set at creation time.
>>>=20
>>> Is there a way to use this feature only on selected pools?
>>>=20
>>> regards,
>>> Johan Hendriks
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
> I think that it would be nice if the installer has the option to set a fe=
ature like this to off. Is it easy to break out of the installer, create th=
e pool before hand and use that pool?
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> Regards,
> Johan.


Hi Johan,

The installer gives me the option to partition manually (which does not giv=
e me the option you are looking for) or open a shell which gives you all th=
e power you need.
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I can't say if you will find it easy or not.
Good luck!

Regards,
Ronald.
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<p><strong>Van:</strong> Johan Hendriks &lt;joh.hendriks@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<strong>Datum:</strong> donderdag, 7 november 2024 11:43<br>
<strong>Aan:</strong> Ronald Klop &lt;ronald-lists@klop.ws&gt;<br>
<strong>CC:</strong> FreeBSD Current &lt;freebsd-current@freebsd.org&gt;<br=
>
<strong>Onderwerp:</strong> Re: BRT copying feature</p>

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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 06/11/2024 13:15, Ronald Klop wrote:</div=
>

<blockquote>Hi,<br>
<br>
When you create a new pool you can use something like this:<br>
zpool create -o feature@block_cloning=3Ddisabled ...<br>
<br>
I tried setting this on an existing pool. That gave me an error.<br>
# zpool set feature@block_cloning=3Ddisabled zdata4<br>
cannot set property for 'zdata4': property 'feature@block_cloning' can only=
 be set to 'disabled' at creation time<br>
<br>
So to install a new 14.2 system you need to do some manual work to create t=
he root pool with the options you prefer.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ronald.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;
<p><strong>Van:</strong> Johan Hendriks <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" =
href=3D"mailto:joh.hendriks@gmail.com">&lt;joh.hendriks@gmail.com&gt;</a><b=
r>
<strong>Datum:</strong> woensdag, 6 november 2024 09:37<br>
<strong>Aan:</strong> FreeBSD Current <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org">&lt;freebsd-current@freebsd.org&g=
t;</a><br>
<strong>Onderwerp:</strong> BRT copying feature</p>

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<div class=3D"TextPlainViewer" id=3D"P.P">I installed the latest 14.2 Beta =
and i noticed that on the root pool the BRT copying feature is enabled on t=
he pool.<br>
I know i need to set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=3D1 to really make us of it. Bu=
t i do not want this on my root pool but i do want to use it on my storage =
pool.<br>
I can not disable this feature on the root pool as it is a feature that can=
 only be set at creation time.<br>
<br>
Is there a way to use this feature only on selected pools?<br>
<br>
regards,<br>
Johan Hendriks<br>
<br>
&nbsp;</div>

<hr></div>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
I think that it would be nice if the installer has the option to set a feat=
ure like this to off. Is it easy to break out of the installer, create the =
pool before hand and use that pool?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Johan.</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Hi Johan,<br>
<br>
The installer gives me the option to partition manually (which does not giv=
e me the option you are looking for) or open a shell which gives you all th=
e power you need.<br>
&nbsp;
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<br>
I can't say if you will find it easy or not.<br>
Good luck!<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ronald.<br>
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