Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 07:53:36 +0100 From: olli hauer <ohauer@gmx.de> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de> Subject: Re: Upgrading Perl... Somebody just shoot me and put me out of my misery! Message-ID: <5292F3F0.9020706@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <5292F0F5.6090203@gmx.de> References: <25503.1385152807@server1.tristatelogic.com> <201311231220.36687.Mark.Martinec%2Bfreebsd@ijs.si> <5292F0F5.6090203@gmx.de>
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On 2013-11-25 07:40, Matthias Andree wrote:
> Am 23.11.2013 12:20, schrieb Mark Martinec:
>> On Friday 22 November 2013 21:40:07 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>>> Now, one last little thing...
>>>
>>> The note in the UPDATING file dated 20131120 gives essentially the same
>>> instructions as the one dated 20131023, *however* it also contains this:
>>>
>>> 1) Change the option in lang/perl5.16:
>>> make -C /usr/ports/lang/perl5.16 config
>>>
>>> HUH?? I don't understand this at all. What exactly is "the option" that
>>> we are changing here? And what does it matter to anything?
>>>
>>> It would be Nice if this were entierly less opaque.
>>
>> $ man ports
>> [...]
>> config Configure OPTIONS for this port using dialog4ports(1).
>>
>>> And what does it matter to anything?
>>
>> Gives you a choice to re-think your existing/chosen port options.
>> For example, a new default is now THREADS, but you may not like
>> it, as it somewhat increases the memory usage and requires
>> to rebuild all perl modules.
>
> Which shows an interesting facet of this whole tedious process:
>
> We're doing a lousy job of explaining the options to unsavvy users, and
> we're also doing a lousy job of tracking options. Perhaps we should
> just slash down the options and go more for "build the default" - it
> also reduces testing complexity and would give for a more uniform ports
> experience for everyone (packages use default options anyways).
>
> I would even go that far to propose killing some common options such as
> NLS DOCS EXAMPLES and replace them by a "make globcalconfig" that sets
> them system-wide through make.conf, so that we don't need to set/reset
> them each and every time a port changes options, nor even offer them.
>
${opt}_DESC is limited, but help/explanation can be given in pkg-help.
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