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Date:      Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:49:27 -0800 (PST)
From:      "f.johan.beisser" <jan@caustic.org>
To:        Lefteris Tsintjelis <lefty@ene.asda.gr>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why Use a Daemon as a Symbol since it alienates many?
Message-ID:  <20021104073910.P30424-100000@pogo.caustic.org>
In-Reply-To: <3DC68F57.97E736EF@ene.asda.gr>

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On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote:

> 	Maybe they should, maybe they should not use some therapist. The
> point is that this is the majority of them and yes maybe Windblows is
> the real evil thing, still, the fact _IS_ that it is used to more than
> 90% of the PCs worldwide. FreeBSD, or even the most other well known OS,
> linux, _ARE NOT_. According to you and me they may need therapy, BUT
> that is the majority of them and according to them we maybe the ones
> that we could use some therapy.

i don't think most computer using christians will be offended by the BSD
mascot. if they are, i'm sure they'd have problems with computers anyway.

> We are the minority afterall so I guess we should consult some
> therapist, right? Do you see the point I am trying to make here?

i'm not sure what point you're trying to make, other than the same one a
few others have made: Beastie offends people, so change it. you're not the
first to say this, you won't be the last.

and, guess what? we still have our Beastie as a mascot.

> People believe and use different things. After all its a free world and
> they are in title to do so. The problem here is that most of their
> responses to the previous question, since they never even heard of Unix
> or alike systems, will be that "this OS since it has a sign that looks
> like the devil and therefor is evil", and I think that this should be
> taken into very serious consideration if FreeBSD would like to increase
> its popularity even more, I am sure Lixux has.

i think you confuse the mascot for the functionality. if someone chooses
linux, they've chosen either because of hearing about it, having a friend
tell them about it, or because someone suggested installing it. mascots
are just that, mascots.

chill out, have a beer. the easily offended should stop being reactionary,
and relax a little. there are worse things out there than beastie.



-------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+
  http://caustic.org/~jan                      jan@caustic.org
	"Champagne for my real friends, real pain for
	  my sham friends." -- Tom Waits


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