Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 14:37:51 -0400 From: Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg? Message-ID: <53C817FF.5090500@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <CAG=rPVcyqq2072%2BgF_X91BocxykJB6%2BU0cMhaNexxfVFpVqUbA@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAG=rPVcyqq2072%2BgF_X91BocxykJB6%2BU0cMhaNexxfVFpVqUbA@mail.gmail.com>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --WVcfhm8etalM241m2BXSojjB63ibD9HFC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2014-07-17 14:25, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I attend a lot of different Meetup groups in the San Francisco Bay Area= / > Silicon Valley. >=20 > What I am seeing is the following usage pattern for new developers, > especially for web apps and cloud applications. >=20 > (1) On their desktop/laptop, they will generally be using > a Mac running OS X. This is their desktop Unix environment. > This seems to be true of almost 90% of the people that I meet. > The 10% of people who run a PC laptop, will mostly be running > Windows. Very few seem to run Linux on their laptops, but > if they do, it will likely be Ubuntu Linux. >=20 > (2) For their deployed application, generally they will deploy to > a Linux environment on a server. These days, the server will > very likely be in a cloud environment: Amazon, Rackspace, > Heroku. >=20 >=20 > For (1), encouraging people to move away from a Mac to FreeBSD for thei= r > desktop environment is a tough sell. Apple is a multi-billion dollar > company, and they make beautiful hardware, and software with > a fantastic end-user experience. The PC-BSD project is fighting the > good fight in terms of making a usable FreeBSD desktop, but its > a touch battle to fight. >=20 > For (2), encouraging people to move away from Linux to FreeBSD > on the server, may be something where we can get more wins. > I think we can do this by having more HOWTO articles on > the FreeBSD web page that explain the following: >=20 >=20 > (1) We need a HOWTO article that explains for each command using a= pt > or yum for installing packages, > how can I do the same thing using "pkg". > Even if we have a web page with a table, contrasting the > apt/yum commands, and pkg commands, that would be super > useful. >=20 > A lot of folks have moved away from FreeBSD, purely because > they are sick of pkg_add. We need to explain to folks that > we have something better, that is quite competitive to > apt/yum, and it is easy to use. >=20 > (2) We need a HOWTO article that explains how to set up > a FreeBSD environment with some of the major cloud providers= , > i.e. Amazon, Rackspace, Microsoft Azure, etc. >=20 >=20 > Do we have such articles today, or is anybody working on something > like that? >=20 > I think if we had these two HOWTO articles today, and we could > aggressively point people at them, this would be a huge win > for expanding the number of people who try out FreeBSD > for modern server applications. >=20 > -- > Craig > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 That is definitely something I am interested in. I think there is definitely an advantage to compiling these at freebsd.org rather than on individual sites all around the net. Deploy Wordpress Deploy Drupal Deploy Django etc Plus the more generalized stuff you mentioned. Quick guides and tables to 'this is how you do that on FreeBSD' for translating linux instruction= s. --=20 Allan Jude --WVcfhm8etalM241m2BXSojjB63ibD9HFC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTyBgCAAoJEJrBFpNRJZKfqKEP/i+9s+JotZkmyfyvgZU4e75S Ey8Vf+S3YtWg59/Y6GDd1Ub970GJvP6na9GuPcb2t2fJGWIN8Jn2cRw/HO6eOBRK wOKwgRIh/1GVyfyDFrJpbw9OUgaAGBLdyKr5ht7ZdLHOsfSPSRn7EVasDqyO5UbS ytk/3u2oAtYFJjlG4Gn39h3EBCZddSootNXrYOjZyCzJ7xA0mUbZFJq5DZzhJwyF W+qzfkGd80VR8QouKZV49FNgZMVZZKbf6nJlkK07JBrYuMUzOX/yJFg3DAcDhY71 5wzGD4KfXNmZQ2JkMXhVmsHf0SQI0V0fmiMtMaEWdsEtfLPD17t5ZB1Rta5YnC2t dPVze+PgDH8U7r6SmtH4twnETVB0AZj+3Hv0PudmnuLwvDnRXLSFvf0iJS4NmOQv x3jaoSR0KgyJDDJjZZVoTsTqsqNqQ+LWZkDO3FHwLJ+Z0nykK2K4+lmKsDXgn++b PosIAHrhlzBuqkapAjul6/5sd+83SXH1D7N7n9iLJaC7dv+Og1dZq/eqavkd1tkK 9CENwc79Y8AYxfyurE7k7Xca/MPIjTktwolh7CqYFmuXwR6VUjyo2fmGvXmlH5JT MUliZcjHFkI+iIOrUJsFP5TUN/ixeqexsYILP8gOW7B2496ldHRD9DkU6d17pUgK TyFymp8+3xx+D6CGMDtm =2weA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WVcfhm8etalM241m2BXSojjB63ibD9HFC--
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