Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:01:03 +0200 From: "Redd Vinylene" <reddvinylene@gmail.com> To: "Giorgos Keramidas" <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>, questions@freebsd.org, bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I can't make world without the "games" group? Message-ID: <f1019d520808260201o27009529v43aa7ae8c35d7304@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87abf487wg.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <f1019d520808010831s39c803fan9a35fcd17f010fc5@mail.gmail.com> <87abf487wg.fsf@kobe.laptop>
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On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:31:22 +0200, "Redd Vinylene" <reddvinylene@gmail.com> wrote: >> Why can't I make world without the "games" group? I run a serious >> server, not a kindergarten ;) >> >> I don't want the games group there, I just don't need it! > > Have you tried building with an src.conf file that includes: > > WITHOUT_GAMES='yes' > > It' not a matter of `kindergarten or not', but a matter of providing a > predictable `base system' by default and all the knob and documentation > to customize it at will. That's why you can find a lot of customization > options in the manpage of src.conf(5). > > For example, on a `production server' that is a bit limited in space, > and doesn't really need compilers, debuggers, profiling tools, or three > different firewalls, I would probably build with: > > WITHOUT_CVS=yes > WITHOUT_GAMES='yes' > WITHOUT_GCOV=yes > WITHOUT_GDB=yes > WITHOUT_IPFILTER=yes > WITHOUT_IPX=yes > WITHOUT_OBJC=yes > WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes > WITHOUT_SHAREDOCS=yes > > I would also use WITHOUT_TOOLCHAIN=yes during `make installworld' runs, > to skip installing all the gcc, g++ and debugger tools. > > The default `base system' still installs all these parts, but you are > definitely *not* obliged to always install all of them. > > - Giorgos > > Hello hello! Yeah I actually tried that, but I got the same error. I don't see why the FreeBSD team has to insist on keeping this, pardon my language, bullshit. If some sorry guy actually needs this, why can't he load it as a module, or install a port? To quote some Frenchman: "Perfection is achieved, not when there's nothing left to add, but when there's nothing left to take away." I worry slightly as I watch FreeBSD become bigger and bigger, fearing that some day it'll all come tumbling down! -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene
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