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Date:      Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:57:39 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Simon J Mudd <sjmudd@pobox.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: gv port builds but fails - needing libpng.so.4 (?)
Message-ID:  <20011126125739.A17576@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111260839020.1856-100000@phoenix.ea4els.ampr.org>; from sjmudd@pobox.com on Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 08:50:35AM %2B0100
References:  <20011125171037.A97187@xor.obsecurity.org> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111260839020.1856-100000@phoenix.ea4els.ampr.org>

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On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 08:50:35AM +0100, Simon J Mudd wrote:

> > The easiest way to do this is probably portupgrade -r
>=20
> I think my point is this:
> - why isn't this enforced by the ports collection?

Not possible.

> - why is it currenlty allowed

Why is it allowed to do rm -rf /?

> - why do the ports collection allow you to have two "conflicting" ports=
=20
> installed at the same time
> 	- this really causes the problem I've encountered.
> 	- ideally you shouldn't be allowed to uninstall/upgrade a port
>           on which other ports depend, unless as you say you upgrade the
> 	  dependent ports too.  I think this information should be available
> 	  at make install or make deinstall time.

Yeah, there are lots of things that are true in an ideal world..yes,
this is arguably a deficiency in the ports collection and it will be
fixed someday.  In the meantime just work with the proper tools - it
only takes minimum effort to update ports if you go about it the right
way.

> Using pkg_tree, I've found that my current system is "a real mess".  I've=
=20
> not been using FreeBSD that long, since 3.4-RELEASE, and even in that tim=
e=20
> I've seen several problems of this type.
>=20
> In fact while I have 207 packages installed in my system I currently have=
=20
> 240 unsatisfied dependencies (as witnessed by
> 'pkg_tree | grep unknown | wc -l').
>=20
> I'm not sure whether I should take this to mean that I shouldn't follow=
=20
> -STABLE, or quite what, but it does concern me that other packages I=20
> have installed may be in the same situation.  If they are libraries and=
=20
> only minor version is different then the may be no problem.
>=20
> This is one aspect where I think rpm is much better.

Okay, don't get me started on all the ways rpm is much worse :)

Kris

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