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Date:      Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:27:37 -0700
From:      <dteske@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "'Slawa Olhovchenkov'" <slw@zxy.spb.ru>, <dteske@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-stable-10@freebsd.org, 'Andrew Thompson' <thompsa@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   RE: svn commit: r270644 - stable/10/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts
Message-ID:  <1e8b01cfc267$a266a650$e733f2f0$@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20140827184832.GJ2075@zxy.spb.ru>
References:  <201408260231.s7Q2VbCW087619@svn.freebsd.org> <20140827140902.GA41194@zxy.spb.ru> <1d0501cfc221$1114f850$333ee8f0$@FreeBSD.org> <20140827184832.GJ2075@zxy.spb.ru>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Slawa Olhovchenkov [mailto:slw@zxy.spb.ru]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:49 AM
> To: dteske@FreeBSD.org
> Cc: 'Andrew Thompson'; src-committers@freebsd.org; svn-src-
> all@freebsd.org; svn-src-stable@freebsd.org; svn-src-stable-
> 10@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: svn commit: r270644 - stable/10/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts
> 
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:02:28AM -0700, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-src-committers@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-src-
> > > committers@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Slawa Olhovchenkov
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 7:09 AM
> > > To: Andrew Thompson
> > > Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org; svn-src-all@freebsd.org; svn-src-
> > > stable@freebsd.org; svn-src-stable-10@freebsd.org
> > > Subject: Re: svn commit: r270644 -
stable/10/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 02:31:37AM +0000, Andrew Thompson wrote:
> > >
> > > In zfs directory layout you missing some separate datesets:
> > >
> > > usr/home (or, may be, just /home)
> > > usr/obj
> > > usr/ports/packages
> > > usr/ports/distfiles
> > >
> > > Can you do it before 10.1?
> >
> > You must have missed the following in the evolution of that script:
> >
> > http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=257842
> >
> > [snip]
> > + Remove some unnecessary default ZFS datasets from the automatic
> "zfsboot"
> >   script. Such as: /usr/ports/distfiles /usr/ports/packages /usr/obj
/var/db
> >   /var/empty /var/mail and /var/run (these can all be created as-needed
> once
> >   the system is installed).
> > [/snip]
> >
> > The idea is that all of those directories you mentioned are empty
> > by default on a freshly installed system. Compare that to directories
> > which are not empty -- if the user wants the data in a separate
> > dataset, they have salvage existing data in the process.
> 
> /home is not empty on a freshly installed system (I am create account
> for remoty login).
> 

I quote from your above test: "usr/home (or, may be, just /home)"

On a freshly installed 10-STABLE snapshot:
root@zbeastie:~ # ls /home
ls: /home: No such file or directory
root@zbeastie:~ # ls /usr/home
root@zbeastie:~ # df -h /usr/home
Filesystem        Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
zroot/usr/home     17G     96K     17G     0%    /usr/home

Now compare that to the following code:
http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts/zfsboot?view
=markup

Read: There is a /usr/home already -- what's the issue?


> Other datasets have special atributes and removing datasets is simples
> then creating and to easy to forget create their before use.

Perhaps; but if you're really deploying that many systems (to which it is
a need that each be setup in the same [custom] manner), you really
out to make a custom installer.

Just rip open the installer ISO, create the following file:

FILE: /etc/installerconfig
ZFSBOOT_DATASETS="
	# your custom settings here -- see /usr/libexec/bsdinstall/zfsboot
" # END-QUOTE

Then repack the ISO and use that instead of the generic release media.
-- 
Devin




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