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From:      "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" <jeroen@vangelderen.org>
To:        "Christopher R. Bowman" <crb@ChrisBowman.com>
Cc:        "Harry M. Leitzell" <Harry_M_Leitzell@cmu.edu>, The Tech-Admin Dude <geniusj@phoenix.unacom.com>, Brian Beaulieu <brian@capital-data.com>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Blowfish/Twofish
Message-ID:  <372CD3E1.9AA3444D@vangelderen.org>
References:  <Pine.SOL.3.96L.990501230902.19529D-100000@unix13.andrew.cmu.edu> <199905022105.RAA09266@quark.ChrisBowman.com>

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[This is getting off-topic...]

"Christopher R. Bowman" wrote:
> 
> At 11:50 AM 5/2/99 +0200, Jeroen C. van Gelderen wrote:
> >"Harry M. Leitzell" wrote:
> >> 2)      Can we still do the moving by paper to another
> >> country and scanning it in?  Is that legitimate or
> >> been deemed illegal?
> >
> >Yes and no. Yes, if you publish it it is covered by the first
> >amendement and you can freely export the book. But you will have
> >to *publish* the crypto, just printing it in a letter is not good
> >enough. Fortunately, getting your 'work' published is not that
> >hard; There are companies that specialize in low volume
> >printing...
> 
> I believe this is and under broad interpretation of the 1st Amendment.  If you
> publish it as a book it is certainly covered but the contra positive is not
> also true.  Saying that it must be published as a book would be analogous to
> saying that the New York times is entitled to free speech but I am not simply
> by virtue of the fact that they can afford those big (or indeed any) presses
> and I must write my work out in long hand.

Unfortunately, there is a difference between the rights you have
and the rights your government wants you to have. The first
amendement probably gives you the right to export cryptographic
source code, but are you prepared to and do you have the
money+time to defend those rights in court?

Check out http://www.eff.org/ and http://www.epic.org/ for more
information on how the US government deals with cryptographic
matters, your rights and the constitution. Don't discuss it on
this list though, it's getting off-topic.

> Can you provide more information regarding how you came to the above
> conclusion?

The NAI people in charge of exporting PGP (on paper) told me. But
let me repeat that I'm not qualified to give you legal advise.
I'm basically telling you to err on the safe side...

Cheers,
Jeroen
-- 
Jeroen C. van Gelderen - jeroen@vangelderen.org - 0xC33EDFDE


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