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Date:      Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:20:16 -0500
From:      "Predius" <predius@netzero.net>
Cc:        <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>, <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Need PCI/VIA chipset help (was Re: 4.4-STABLE crashes - suspects new ata-driver over wd-drivers)
Message-ID:  <005101c18ee1$9b5d66e0$fa01a8c0@ABERRATION>
References:  <E16JauV-000Mgg-00@mailhost.firstcallgroup.co.uk>

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There are a couple known issues going on with the VIA Chipset line (Some
acknowledge by VIA partially, some not.) beyond just the 686B bug.

Here's a couple sites with details.  Myself, I think it's a BIOS writer's
problem as well, but unfortunatly with most VIA boards, their goal is
performance over stability, leaving people like us SOL.

http://www.networking.tzo.com/net/software/
http://www.tecchannel.de/hardware/813/1.html <- In german, bring your fish

Myself, I'd love to see a couple kernel options that could impliment the
chipset tweaks, I think they'd most appropriately be included with the other
cpu tweaks, and should have an appropriate warning attached to them.

Joshua Coombs

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete French" <pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk>
To: <sos@freebsd.dk>
Cc: <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>; <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Need PCI/VIA chipset help (was Re: 4.4-STABLE crashes -
suspects new ata-driver over wd-drivers)


> > Anyhow since this is not always the case I did the fix for -current,
> > granted it should not be in the ATA driver, but since nobody else
> > really cared at the time....
>
> Does this mean that if you dont have the ATA drivers in the kernel then
> you wont get the fix ? As the bug occurs under high PCI loads then this
> can potentially affect people with large amounts of PCI activity on
> SCSI drives too surely ? Granted I've never seen it happen, but it still
> bothers me that it might...
>
> -pcf.
>
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