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Date:      Thu, 26 Jul 2012 02:34:49 -0300
From:      joaoBR <joao@matik.com.br>
To:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
Cc:        freebsd-x11@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 2/3D rendering cards
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Em Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:31:34 -0600 (MDT)
Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> escreveu:

> On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, joaoBR wrote:
>=20
> > Em Wed, 25 Jul 2012 23:59:09 +0400
> > "Marat N.Afanasyev" <amarat@ksu.ru> escreveu:
> >
> >> joaoBR wrote:
> >>> Em Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:13:05 -0600 (MDT)
> >>> Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> escreveu:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> there are, more or less, three opportunities:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nvidia
> >>>>> AMD/Ati
> >>>>> Intel
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nvidia has really good performance using nvidia legacy driver.
> >>>>> You have pros and cons (I don't want to start a debate about
> >>>>> it) of closed-source. Nvidia using nv has quite poor
> >>>>> performance, on Linux as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AMD/Ati platform has a lack of support on FreeBSD (TTM not fully
> >>>>> implemented or something like that). That means no OpenGL hw
> >>>>> acceleration.
> >>>>
> >>>> Isn't this showing OpenGL hardware acceleration?
> >>>>
> >>>> direct rendering: Yes
> >>>> server glx vendor string: SGI
> >>>> server glx version string: 1.2
> >>>> GLX version: 1.2
> >>>> OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
> >>>> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV730 9498)  TCL
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>
> >
> > which xorg version is it? 7.6 ?
>=20
> xf86-video-ati-6.14.6_1
> xorg-7.5.2
> xorg-server-1.10.6,1
>=20

where comes this video driver version from, mine is=20
xf86-video-ati-6.14.3_1 for same xorg-server

> > because look, with xorg-1.10 I get this:
> >
> > direct rendering: Yes
> > server glx vendor string: SGI
> > server glx version string: 1.4
> > client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
> > client glx version string: 1.4
> > GLX version: 1.4
> > OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.3
> > OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
> >
> > but no direct rendering anymore, rasterizing ...
> >
> > and you confirm certainly what I answered to Olivier that it was
> > working with ATI before xorg ver 7.7
>=20
> It depends on the card.  Cards up through the 4000 series should be=20
> supported by the current driver.  This particular one is an HD4650
> PCIe, but I've also used the HD4850 and had reports of success with
> either 4250 or 4350 cards.  Some people have reported 2D acceleration
> on the HD5470.

well all ati cards are PCIe and are supported, question is what
capabilities they have with FreeBSD and new xorg-serevr

I certainly have not payed enough attention but by the versions
mismatch I see and must say: You still are hiding the rendering
capabilities of YOUR card

because I have only ATI cards and a lot, I hacked my eyes out to figure
it out and NO ati card so far gives me dri with xorg-server 1.10 and
it's legitimate drivers. So I would like to know about how you did it
(if) and see your versions, including mesa, GL, libglut and glx
rendering string.

this thread was initiated by Warren's answer and in fact what is
interesting here which version HE is running because his card is doing
dri and I am pretty sure, soon he upgrade his xorg he comes to
rasterizing mode




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Jo=E3o Martins (JoaoBR)

Infomatik Development Team
http://wipserver.matik.com.br
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