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Date:      Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:58:55 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Bill/Carolyn Pechter <pechter@shell.monmouth.com>
To:        terry@lambert.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Cc:        info-pdp11@transarc.com
Subject:   System ID numbers
Message-ID:  <199609251858.OAA12278@shell.monmouth.com>

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I'm rerouting this from freebsd-current and copying the PDP11
mailing list for corrections and clarifications...

My DEC recollections get hazy after 10 years and all the IBM stuff
I'm seeing lately blends together.

In FreeBSD-current-digest Terry Lambert mentioned a Unique ID on PDP11's.
I follow the exerpt with my recollections -- can anyone mention any machine
except the Pro350/380 where a Unique ID was used in licensing PDP11 
applications or OS software.


> From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:48:14 -0700 (MST)
> Subject: Re: Licensing Software

> > 	'course.  Pity Intel didn't think on burning a unique CPU
> > 	ID into each chip they made.  Even PDP11 had this.
> > 	What can be thought to become a unique FreeBSD machine ID, anyway?
> > 

No PDP11's didn't have a unique ID. At least not the 11/03, 11/05, 11/10, 
11/34[a], 11/23, and 11/40 didn't to the best of my memory...


Which PDP11 had one? The Pro350/380 used a rom or pal chip.
I don't think any LSI stuff through the 11/23 had any id.

The 11/70 had an ID available -- on a DIP switch (user settable) 
but most other machines didn't (and the 11/70 didn't use it -- perhaps the 
4 cpu 11/74 did).  I assume the 11/45/50/55 had the same thing since it was
on the 11/70.


Vaxes had it (11/780 11/785 (backplane wire - could be rewired by anyone
since it was in the printset...), 11/750 (dip switch), the later machines
may have had one -- I think it was on the Microvax.

It was a pain on backplane replacement.

Bill
ex-DEC Field Service
(I'd remember having to set a system ID on maintenance board swap...)


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