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Date:      Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:18:01 -0800
From:      Murray Stokely <murray@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.freebsd.org>
Cc:        re@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Installation failure [finally] seen with 4.5-RC3
Message-ID:  <20020126001801.GL5153@freebsdmall.com>
In-Reply-To: <87634.1011997394@winston.freebsd.org>
References:  <87634.1011997394@winston.freebsd.org>

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  I've done at least 10 installs of the different RCs and I haven't
run into this, so I'm very interested in finding a reproducible case.
Most of my installs were also of "X-developer".  Has anyone else seen
this?  Is there anything special about the hardware you installed to?

    - Murray

On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 02:23:14PM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> Unfortunately, this one seems to be in the "heisenbug" category which
> is why I didn't flag it as a show-stopper when it started getting
> reported by others in -stable, referring to the 4.4-snapshot releases
> they were installing from ftp://stable.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD.
> 
> I don't know when/how it crept in, but there now appears to be a bug
> which manifests itself during sysinstall's distribution extraction
> phase, always while installing the src distribution (my canonical
> installation profile for testing developer installs is X-developer).
> 
> I also believe it's actually a kernel panic or hard hang vs sysinstall
> croaking because no signal is caught and the kernel does not panic
> with "init died" - the system simply hard hangs and you can't switch
> VTYs or interact in any way with the system.  Just to make this even
> more annoying, the bug does not seem to manifest itself if you have
> Debug mode selected or are on VTY2 when the crash happens.  I'm still
> pursuing a 100% reproductible test case, but it's an evil problem.
> 
> - Jordan

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