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Date:      Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:18:14 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        "Alok K. Dhir" <adhir@worldbank.org>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Vinum vs CCD?
Message-ID:  <19981022101814.D1219@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9810211135070.18184-100000@shadow.worldbank.org>; from Alok K. Dhir on Wed, Oct 21, 1998 at 11:37:13AM -0400
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9810211135070.18184-100000@shadow.worldbank.org>

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On Wednesday, 21 October 1998 at 11:37:13 -0400, Alok K. Dhir wrote:
>
> Hi - I recently stumbled accross the existence of vinum in 3.0, and have a
> couple of simple questions:
>
> 1.  How does vinum compare to CCD, specifically with regards to
>     performance and stability?

We haven't done much performance testing.  My indications, using dd
from a raw volume, are that even with the current debug code in Vinum,
it will drop performance by about 2% compared to a standard
partition.  The throughput of both raw partition and raw volume was in
the order of 10 MB/s (this is a new IBM IDE drive).  I haven't tried
it with ccd, but I don't expect much difference.

Usingn striping, you can improve overall performance with multiple
access only, so it wouldn't show up with a simple dd.  When I have
time, I'll start doing some serious performance comparisons.

> 2.  Is anyone using Vinum on an SMP -current box with any horror/success
>     stories?

Yes, with both :-) It seems to work fine with IDE drives, but a couple
of people have reported problems in conjunction with CAM and the
RAID-5 version.  We haven't quite identified the causes, but it seems
that under some situations CAM will return an I/O error, and Vinum
doesn't always handle it correctly.  I'm working on the Vinum side of
this problem; the CAM side may be due to incorrect termination which
only shows up in typical highly concurrent access patterns which Vinum
RAID-5 causes, or in one case it's been suggested that the power
supply can't handle the demands of several drives being accessed
concurrently.  We don't have any specific evidence of a CAM problem.

Greg
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