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Date:      Wed, 28 Feb 2018 14:37:36 -0500
From:      Mike <the.lists@mgm51.com>
To:        bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net>
Cc:        freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Is maximum swap usage tunable?
Message-ID:  <8f422161-885e-aa91-eacd-018540222d65@mgm51.com>
In-Reply-To: <20180228185517.GB26187@www.zefox.net>
References:  <20180228170311.GA26187@www.zefox.net> <a759ecea-83f4-b0b2-7113-c39633f68637@mgm51.com> <20180228185517.GB26187@www.zefox.net>

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On 2/28/2018 1:55 PM, bob prohaska wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:20:56PM -0500, Mike wrote:
>> On 2/28/2018 12:03 PM, bob prohaska wrote:
>>> In watching system compilations on an RPi3 it looks as if the
>>> system starts killing processes with "out of swap" warnings 
>>> well below 50% of full utilization (in this case, 2 GB). One
>>> recent instance of make -j4 kernel-toolchain killed llvm-tblgen
>>> with only 34% of the swap in use.
>>>
>>> Is the maximum swap usage limit adjustable in any way? I didn't
>>> recognize anything useful in the page at
>>> https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=sysctl(8)&sektion=&manpath=freebsd-release-ports 
>>>
>>> It's possible the problem is really swap speed, rather than size, so I'd
>>> like to try changing size limits if possible. The swap media claims 2-3 
>>> MB/sec random write speed and observations with gstat seem to support the
>>> claim, but transient stalls are hard to observe. An RPi2 with similar 
>>> hardware seems to have no problems.
>>>
>>
>>
>>> It's possible the problem is really swap speed
>>
>> I was running into swap speed / timeout issues.  There were messages on
>> the console to that effect.
>>
>> Once I put the swap space on rotating rust, that part of the compile
>> problem disappeared.  I use 1GB swap space.
>>
> 
> The latest kernel versions seem to have largely done away with the
> "indefinite wait buffobj" warnings. They're few and far between,
> the compile proceeds unless they're abundant. The fact that armv7
> has no problem, and the system is reporting "out of swap" with 34%
> in use strikes me as suspicious. Kernel and userland are in sync, 
> so the figure of 34% swap usage is probably accurate. 
> 
> Perhaps my question is better phrased thus: How does FreeBSD-arm 
> determine when it's out of swap?
> 


Thanks for the follow-up.

I was planning to download and try the

  RPI3-20180226-r330034

image file this evening.  Per your comment, I'll not use the rusty swap
space, and see what happens.

I'll report back, probably on the morrow...

thx.





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