Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:35:17 -0500 From: "Pedro F. Giffuni" <giffunip@asme.org> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shells Message-ID: <38F9EBC5.73940771@asme.org> References: <31345.955883432@zippy.cdrom.com>
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"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
>
> > Two reasons of the top of my head: GPL'd and gratuitously incompatible.
>
> GPL'd things go into /usr/src/gnu - no big deal. If we were overly
> squeamish about the GPL then we wouldn't have "grep" or a compiler
> toolchain either, among other things, and I doubt anybody's arguing
> for killing those. The ash shell is just bad enough that I'd consider
> a change of license for a truly functional shell out-of-the-box to
> be a more than acceptable trade-off.
>
Heh..:-) Please replace grep with the recently developed free grep and
unbundle gcc, making it a package independent from the base
distribution. I won't be sad the day I can use tcc to build a kernel,
besides after rebuilding the kernel (assuming you need to in the first
place), many people don't need a C compiler.
> As to the second argument, you'll have to explain yourself, sonny. :)
>
I really wanted to keep out from this discussion, however the NetBSD
approach seems rational; keep ash and add pdksh.
The problem is that most developers will want to be 100% sure their
scripts will run out-of-the-box on SUN, Unixware and the u-name it
commercial UNIX, and these people don't carry bash.
cheers,
Pedro.
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