Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:23:38 -0400 From: Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, Barney Wolff <barney@databus.com> Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSUP and 5.2.1 RELEASE Message-ID: <p06110415bd1a0dedbf1c@[128.113.24.47]> In-Reply-To: <26075.1089753893@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <26075.1089753893@critter.freebsd.dk>
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At 11:24 PM +0200 7/13/04, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>In message <20040713212056.GA82311@pit.databus.com>, Barney Wolff writes:
> >On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 11:14:01PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >
> > Could you please enlighten the rest of us as to when the
> > sequence of operations performed by "make world" is a useful
> > thing to do?
>
>I've said that already in earlier email:
> make world DESTDIR=/some_jail
a) how about if we print a warning and exit if DESTDIR is
not defined? Are there "important" uses of `make world'
which do not use DESTDIR?
b) I still don't see how this would be hurt if the target had
a different name. Yes, there is an issue of documentation,
but I still think the following point is important:
> > ... and I find it hard to imagine that happens often enough
> > to weigh against the continual damage to new users from
> > this deceptively inviting target.
Yes, maybe it is the user's fault. That does not mean that the
best action is for us to leave this foot-shooting, and deceptively
inviting target the way it is. Every time I see some user with a
system that was trashed from this target, I can't help but think
that we should try to do SOMETHING about it.
And if we leave behind a "make world" target which tells the user
what is going on, then I do not agree that we must fix all 10**64
pages of documentation before we try to save users from trashing
their own freebsd systems.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu
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