Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:42:20 -0500 (EST) From: Chris BeHanna <behanna@zbzoom.net> To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh - are you nuts?!? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012221936391.10813-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.1.20001223132307.01b00b70@pop3.i4free.co.nz>
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, David Preece wrote: > At 15:37 22/12/00 -0800, you wrote: > > >The question asked is: why you believe ssh is beter than say > >telnet. Or what advantages SSH has in general. > > Sorry, don't have time to reply to this properly. > > The main evil of ssh is that server authentication is not enforced, > making mounting a man-in-the-middle attack basically trivial. Man-in-the-middle or not, the fact that your data aren't transmitted in the clear automatically gives ssh a leg up over telnet, rsh, rlogin, and ftp. (At least one large company I know of has stated flatly, for example, that sending a root password over the wire in the clear is grounds for immediate termination.) You can certainly do your own server authentication, by carrying your known hosts file around on a floppy. ssh *does* warn you when you connect to a host that isn't present in your known hosts file--this isn't happening without your knowledge *and* consent. ssh may have its weaknesses, but telnet has little use other than as a diagnostic tool, IMHO (I only use it to send protocol commands to popd or sendmail these days). I'd *hardly* characterize ssh as "evil". -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net Remove "bogus" before responding. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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