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Date:      Wed, 16 Dec 1998 21:41:14 +0100 (CET)
From:      N <niels@bakker.net>
To:        Gary Palmer <gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: RAID solutions? 
Message-ID:  <981216213424.32382A-100000@liquid.tpb.net>
In-Reply-To: <36235.913830533@gjp.erols.com>

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>> CNFS isn't too fast.  See news.software.nntp and the inn-workers@isc.org
>> archives, among others.
> I think that thats not 100% accurate ... the problem as I understand it is 
> that accessing overview data in a CNFS system is really really bad. The rest 
> of it is fine.

However - the unified overview database is an integral part of CNFS.  If
one part of CNFS is slow, you can say that CNFS is slow.  Only one thing
counts - what the users perceive.  If you choose INN 2.x with storageapi
(and if you're a largish ISP) they'll see slowness beyond belief.  With,
say, 250 unique users daily it's bearable, above that you'll have to buy
enough memory to cache ~ 2 GB of overview data for that to happen.

Although it proves again that some newsreaders (slrn) are better than all
others. :) (slrn doesn't suck in the complete overview data, only the new
articles.)

Several people are working on different solutions for the problem; see
inn-workers@isc.org archives for more details and discussion, and (of
course) news.software.nntp.  Two of the paths currently being explored by
non-ISC people are the reintroduction of traditional overview data and a
change in the database format of the history.{dir,pag} files to also
include the token (and still turn extendeddbz off, to keep things
manageable).

Anyway, to get back to the thread, do you think you need any sort of
redundancy for the spool?  If not, I suggest you use ccd (or if you're
brave, vinom ) to stripe some disks together and mount them in various
places (alt, alt.binaries, and the rest sound like good choices).


	-- Niels.


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