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Date:      Fri, 11 Apr 2014 19:14:07 -0700
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arch <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Time for turning off gdb by default? Or worse...
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On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On 4/12/14, 4:35 AM, Ed Maste wrote:
>>
>> On 11 April 2014 14:26, Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>
>>>
>>> bleagh!
>>>
>>> compare with ddd..
>>>
>>>
>>> http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/d/data_display_debugger_for_mac-203841-1231223624.jpeg
>>>
>>> https://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/   for more examples
>>
>> I'm not sure how that's relevant; we're not contemplating putting that
>> in the base system.
>>
> I'm suggestng that it's another way where gdb has features that lldb
> doesn't. A plethora of front-ends.

Maybe, but that's not the question here.  The curses front end was a
distraction.

The issue was:
Given that the in-tree gdb is woefully stale and increasingly
difficult to use with our current toolchain, is it time to turn it off
and put our weight behind the ports version?  If so, what would we
have to take care of or  bring over to the port version before we
could?

The consensus seems to be that the loss of kgdb functionality would be
a blocker.

Front ends for debuggers are way out of scope of the original question.
-- 
Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV



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