Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:06:05 +0800 From: Martin Wilke <miwi@FreeBSD.org> To: Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Christoph Moench-Tegeder <cmt@burggraben.net>, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r490910 - in head: Mk Mk/Uses mail/thunderbird www/firefox www/firefox-esr www/firefox-i18n www/firefox/files www/palemoon www/seamonkey Message-ID: <20190123050605.3nnkuzxafhrgltvo@miwitb.miwi.cc> In-Reply-To: <zhrs-avql-wny@FreeBSD.org> References: <201901212303.x0LN3jR3059519@repo.freebsd.org> <CAGBxaX=T7SvB6Ncm-0Drt1-HLED92xKuJ-LRvg%2BYsDFKrYCp4A@mail.gmail.com> <CAGBxaXmOibxw_q5Ev34oyiCetNRqNVLNY5VjQrJZFEFTy6nDhg@mail.gmail.com> <o989-8nt8-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20190122100911.GA77378@elch.exwg.net> <d0oo-fn3l-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20190122205210.GA2480@elch.exwg.net> <20190123021742.crxjjzlcvg3ly55k@miwitb.miwi.cc> <zhrs-avql-wny@FreeBSD.org>
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On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 04:38:58AM +0100, Jan Beich wrote:
> Martin Wilke <miwi@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 09:52:11PM +0100, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote:
> >
> >> ## Jan Beich (jbeich@FreeBSD.org):
> >>
> >> > Looking at Try options[1] and automation[2] I'm not sure WAYLAND=off is
> >> > tested nowadays. In www/firefox WAYLAND=off has no effect[3] unless
> >> > x11-toolkits/gtk30 also has WAYLAND=off. I've reported the issue
> >> > upstream[4] but for now just locally remove files/patch-bug1514156.
> >> > If there's no fix in sight after actual release on 2019-01-29 then
> >> > the patch can be moved under WAYLAND_EXTRA_PATCHES.
> >>
> >> I personally don't mind having the wayland stuff around - from
> >> the log I gather I disabled it quite some time ago because it
> >> broke something ("glx/dri/whatever", sic) back in the days.
> >> Now it just works. And firefox 65 works, too.
> >>
> >> Given that WAYLAND is the default for us, and "without wayland"
> >> might be untested anyways - would it make sense to remove the
> >> WAYLAND option and force it to "on" always?
> >
> > Correct me if I am wrong, WAYLAND is a X replacement which is not really working with FreeBSD atm.
>
> x11-wm/sway works, except on x11/nvidia-driver. No clue about others.
>
Well thats off topic, but it dosent work for me on a T480 (2018 model) not even getting a full screen yet
(tested with scfb and intel / drm-kmod). However please lets not get deeper in to it, i'll send a seprated mail
on that later.
> GDK_BACKEND=wayland is default in Gtk3 if running under Wayland, except
> www/firefox. QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland-egl and SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland
> often work fine but not default. Lots of X11 apps work under Xwayland
> e.g., www/seamonkey, editors/emacs, x11/xterm.
>
> > Why should I/We install it when we dont use it? For me the only thing it does is increasing build time,
> > and for minimal desktops a useless dependency. Its already absurd enough to have 2 CLANG versions
> > on a desktop.
>
> For minimal X11 desktops a lot of stuff is useless e.g., D-Bus per bug 194460
> but accessibility/orca needs D-Bus. I suspect all Wayland-specific dependencies
> *combined* don't reach the build time of a single devel/llvm*.
I agree on that, but gtk3 still build and works fine without WAYLAND on, and honestly i'd preferd that way for firfox too.
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With best Regards,
Martin Wilke (miwi_(at)_FreeBSD.org)
Mess with the Best, Die like the Rest
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