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Date:      Sat, 19 May 2018 20:48:43 -0700
From:      Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>,  "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@freebsd.org>,  src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org,  svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r333880 - head/sys/kern
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On 19 May 2018 at 20:05, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19/05/2018 21:43, Warner Losh wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 19, 2018, 8:40 PM Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19/05/2018 16:02, Warner Losh wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> In message
>>>> <CANCZdfrMjf8LgwUy4rL53m-XAM9P0fa-cb=cD5+V5Br+evussw@mail.gmail.com>
>>>> , Warner Losh writes:
>>>>
>>>> >> > Log:
>>>> >> >   Restore the all rights reserved language.
>>>>
>>>> "All Rights Reserved" is boilerplate from the old "Buenos Aires"
>>>> copyright convention, (a purely N+S American affair) and it lost
>>>> all meaning and relevance for UCB when USA ratified the Berne
>>>> Convention 60 years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> The US ratified the Berne Convention in 1989, which falls in the middle
>>> of the 4.x BSD releases... Relevant for 4.3, but not 4.4.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The final Buenos Aires signatory joined Berne a couple of decades
>>>> ago, rendering the convention null and void, and therefore this
>>>> boilerplate has no meaning or relevance for anybody.
>>>
>>>
>>> Right, I get that. However, someone removed it. Even though it's useless
>>> at this point, I don't believe we can remove it.
>>>
>>> For the record, and with the usual disclaimer that I am *not* a lawyer
>>> ...
>>>
>>> I attended a talk from a lawyer from Google that explained adding the
>>> "All Rights Reserved" line didn't mean what it intended to mean previously
>>> (or much at all) but that removing it was intended as having a meaning. In
>>> sum, and while I didn't completely grasp the issue is not clear all lawyers
>>> would agree on removing the line.
>>>
>>> For old code it is what is, but perhaps the effort should be done for new
>>> code, starting here:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/pref-license.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks like i missed one. I'll fix it.
>>
>> While updating documentation, the SPDX guys also point to an outdated
>> version:
>>
>> https://spdx.org/licenses/BSD-2-Clause-FreeBSD.html
>
>
> Can you get this updated?
>
>>
>> https://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html
>
>
> Not sure where this file comes from...

Sending        freebsd-license.xml
Transmitting file data .done
Committing transaction...
Committed revision 51670.

>>  With the additional mistake that they added the Documentation Project
>> disclaimer to the license:
>>
>>  "The views and conclusions contained in the software and documentation
>> are those of the authors and should not be interpreted as representing
>> official policies, either expressed or implied, of the FreeBSD Project."
>
>
> Can you get that fixed?

You want me to remove the disclaimer as well?

-- 
Eitan Adler



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