Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:33:00 -0400 From: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-current-local@be-well.ilk.org> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Gregory Shapiro <gshapiro@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: BIND in the base (Was: Re: tmux(1) in base) Message-ID: <44vdja1x83.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <20090922200449.GL19207@rugsucker.local> (Gregory Shapiro's message of "Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:04:49 -0700") References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <20090922135435.36a3d40e@lazybytes.org> <4AB90448.9020706@FreeBSD.org> <19e9a5dc0909221014o14e88c96ubf32142b85d781d@mail.gmail.com> <20090922173517.GB63149@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20090922200449.GL19207@rugsucker.local>
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Gregory Shapiro <gshapiro@freebsd.org> writes: >> I suppose it doesn't matter to you that sendmail is actually >> maintained by Greg Shapiro, VP, CTO of Sendmail, Inc. > > While I appreciate the vote of confidence, it doesn't, and it shouldn't. > I'll continue to maintain sendmail in the base as long as it is welcome > there. If the project wants it moved out, that is not up to me (though > I hope it stays). There's also the Principle of Least Astonishment. The pain of any change would be substantial (albeit short-lived). > I haven't spent a lot of time looking at DMA, but some requirements that > pop to mind for it to be a replacement would be things like accepting > local mail via SMTP (e.g., for MUAs which use SMTP submission) and > supporting STARTTLS and SMTP AUTH for talking to the upstream MTA. The point of DMA is that it does the absolute minimum needed to get a workable system. That *minimum* is really just delivering locally generated mail somewhere else, primarily to make sure root's cron e-mails go somewhere. To actually receive mail, another MTA would always be needed. STARTTLS and TLS/SSL do seem to be supported, and enough virtusertable functionality to get the from addresses replyable. None of which should be interpreted as an opinion on my part. I will only develop (much less express) an opinion if absolutely pressed. Be well.
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