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Date:      Fri, 07 Jun 2013 15:38:35 +0200
From:      Florent Peterschmitt <florent@peterschmitt.fr>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [HEADSUP] dialog4ports does not popup anymore only for global options
Message-ID:  <51B1E25B.60005@peterschmitt.fr>
In-Reply-To: <51B1E067.8070204@coosemans.org>
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Le 07/06/2013 15:30, Tijl Coosemans a =E9crit :
> On 2013-06-07 13:40, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 12:46:08PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>> On 2013-06-07 12:17, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 01:15:49PM +0300, Vitaly Magerya wrote:
>>>>> Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>>>>>> Is it possible to still show the dialog if one of those options i=
mplies
>>>>>>> additional dependencies?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If not, what should those of us who do not want them installed do=
?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> make config will always show those options so you can always tune =
them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just make config-conditional will not fireup a new dialog automati=
cally if the
>>>>>> defined options are only those from the global options.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see. As far as I can tell though, and correct me if I'm wrong, bu=
t
>>>>> 'make install' doesn't show those options. It also does not show th=
ose
>>>>> options for dependent ports. Neither does 'make config-recursive'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tools like portmaster will now ignore those as well during install =
and
>>>>> reinstall.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, again, what are my options if I don't want dependencies to be p=
ulled
>>>>> in silently?
>>>>
>>>> You have no options and you never had one in the ports tree sorry.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a way to implement that cleanly, I'll be happy to push s=
uch features
>>>> in the ports but really I see a way to do what you ask for.
>>>
>>> How about only suppressing the dialog if the options have been explic=
itly
>>> set or unset in make.conf?
>>
>> That would be easy but is that a really desired feature?
>=20
> I can only speak for myself, but I don't see DOCS as a global option.
> For some ports I want documentation, for others I don't, so I want the
> dialog to show up even if DOCS is the only option.
>=20
> There doesn't seem to be a clear cut line between global and per port
> options and different users have different opinions about it.
>=20
> Can you make it such that config-conditional suppresses the dialog
> if all options have been explicitly set or unset either through
> command line, make.conf or optionsfile? Or in other words only show
> the dialog if one of the options falls back to a default value (e.g.
> when a new option has been added to a port and that option has not
> been set globally).
>=20
> I think that would allow anyone to set/unset any option globally and
> not be bothered by dialogs without enforcing that view on everybody
> else. You wouldn't need GLOBAL_OPTIONS any more then.
>=20
Like you said, every users have different opinion (as I have another
than yours :-) ) and the only way I think can satisfy every one is a
customizable behavior=85

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