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Date:      Thu, 2 Feb 2017 01:08:19 +0300
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Takahashi Yoshihiro <nyan@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r312910 - in head: . etc/etc.pc98 etc/rc.d lib/libsysdecode libexec release release/doc release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/readme release/doc/share/example...
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On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 10:56:24AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:

> >> > > Fair enough.  I haven't fully put away my 12 axe and am toying with
> >> > > dropping any ISA-only storage and NIC drivers (and perhaps pccard-only
> >> > > as well in that case).  Hardware that wants to use ISA/pccard for
> >> > > storage is probably happier running 4.x anyway.  One question is if we
> >> > > should drop ISA attachments in that case for drivers that support PCI
> >> > > and ISA.  However, there's a fair list of ISA-only adapters that would
> >> > > be a good place to start anyway.  One concern is to not drop any drivers
> >> >
> >> > ps/2 keyboard, mouse, touchpads, lm sensors, etc?...
> >>
> >> Those aren't storage or NICs.  There are many "legacy" device still present
> >> in modern systems that we obviously have to support.  However, if you have
> >> an ISA Adapter SCSI HBA in an ISA slot, the machine running that is probably
> >> happier running 4.x than 12.0.
> >
> > My be I am missread, I think removed ISA bus and all devices attached
> > to ISA bus.
> 
> We will never ever ever remove the ISA bus on the i386 or amd64 ports.
> That's simply not possible due to the legacy busses and the fact that
> many devices are logically attached to the address space used by the
> ISA bus even if there aren't physical plastic ISA slots.

Ah, sorry, this is my missread.
I am don't have any ISA cards in use many years.
Only some ISA COM/LPT/sound cards in far-away box.

PS: again, may be time to move all drivers to modules and load all
GENERIC's devices from loader.conf? /boot/loader have good performance
now.



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